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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 24 points 3 weeks ago

Just wanted to say that I'm thankful for all yall.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Found a fitting lament for our current era:

alt text: "Kinda hate that we live in a world where any new F/OSS tool or operating system that gets buzz needs to be vetted for Nazi entanglements."

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I heard the same complaint from leftist metal fans.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago

See also goth/industrial music. The latter also has (like metal) a bit of a sexism issue.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From the r/SunoAI subreddit: "Sick of having to come up with prompts".

Hey y’all, looking for some tips here. I like what I’ve made so far with Suno but now I’m kind of hitting a wall with ideas for prompts. Why doesn’t Suno also have a feature to write prompts for you? Like just hit a button the says “new prompt” and then hit make song when it comes up with something that sounds interesting! Thoughts?

(Via Dan of the Year.)

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Noted on Bluesky:

Tomorrow Grimes will DJ a livestream of immortality influencer Bryan Johnson tripping on shrooms to determine its effect on longevity. Mr. Beast and the CEO of Salesforce will be there too.

Now, folks out there are calling this a Biblically accurate blunt rotation, but to be fair, it's missing Aella.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago

I'll tell you what, it is fantastic to be clean and sober today

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 15 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

link

article link

transcriptGraham Linehan is a normal and well man.

A few hours later, he sends me an example of how he’s been using AI. It’s a “hidden role deduction” game he’s working on. At the top is the prompt he put into ChatGPT: “You are five blind lesbian adventurers out for a good night out. Slaying dragons and whatnot. But one of your number is a hulking great troll pretending to be a woman. Find the troll lesbian and then devise an amusing punishment without giving him an erection.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago

The CIA wouldn't be able to torture this kinda shit out of me. Jesus, Linehan.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago

An unnamed OSS project had its license vandalized by AI:

Its currently unnamed to avoid naming-and-shaming any specific devs, but its probably a Mozilla project that was affected.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Out of all the documentation pages written by the most pedantic nerds on Earth (complimentary), I think this just might be the shortest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_articles_with_large_language_models

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Bloomberg covers the disastrous impact of AI upon food recipes, while still putting an "AI overview" on the top of the page...

In interviews, 22 independent food creators said that AI-generated “recipe slop” is distorting nearly every way people find cooking advice online, damaging their businesses while causing consumers to waste time and money.

Across the internet, writers say their vetted recipes are hidden by the flood. Pinterest feeds are stuffed with AI-generated images of food that the attached instructions won’t achieve; Google’s AI Overviews surface error-filled cooking steps that siphon away clicks from professionals. Meanwhile, Facebook content farms use AI-generated images of supposedly delicious but impossible dishes to the top of people’s feeds, in an attempt to turn any clicks into ad revenue.

All of this, food bloggers say, erodes the simple promise of a recipe: that someone has actually cooked it before you have. To Gargano, this is the core issue. “No matter how clever the AI is,” she said in a recent interview, “it can never actually test a recipe in a real kitchen and see how it works.”

[...]

For Carrie Forrest, who runs Clean Eating Kitchen, AI has been devastating: 80% of her traffic — and her revenue — has disappeared in two years. Although the views started dropping when OpenAI’s ChatGPT was released, it wasn’t until Google launched AI Mode in search that her traffic collapsed, she said. Since then, she’s gone from employing about ten people to letting everyone go. “I’m going to have to find something else to do.”

This holiday season is on track to be Forrest’s slowest in years. She fears that if more content creators give up, the AI won’t have new content to draw from — except content generated by AI. It may get to a point where “AI is just talking to itself,” and home cooks are gambling with the results, she said.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think we already lost the plot when we started relying on a centralized entity (Google) to "index the world's information and make it useful". Ad-tech already fucked up all of the incentives, making recipe sites fill their pages with bullshit in hopes of wiping my eyeballs with messages from third parties hungry for attention. I fucking hate this world.

I saw this food on social media the other day which was allegedly caused by a Chat-GPT recipe: https://www.reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/1p60tfw/my_wife_tried_a_chatgpt_crockpot_recipe/

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Semi-relevant, Matthew Garrett has won a court case against the kooks running Techrights:

https://nondeterministic.computer/@mjg59/115581959497817474

About the only positive thing you can say about Schestowitz (and probably his wife) is that they are rabidly anti-AI, but that is only because they are also rabidly against anyone who does not subscribe to their personal purity-test vision of Free Software (basically it's them, RMS, and maybe his parrot).

I have an unhealthy interest in them, because during the Andrew Lee putsch they were basically on his side, until he fucked even them, and I kinda drifted into their IRC server to see what was up. It was my unwelcome introduction to the toxic underbelly of FLOSS, with rampant RMS-worship, misogyny, racism and incipient techno-fascism. I ducked out quite quickly.

Tellingly, Techrights is all in on the Gemini protocol.

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I never heard of Techrights before, they seem rather unhinged, but I had a good laugh when I saw this article about Lunduke. Not even the floss fundamentalists like Lundukes flavor of racist Linux "journalism".

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)
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[–] rook@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And whilst we’re in that liminal space where no-one reads the old stubstack but the new one hasn’t yet surfaced, here’s an article about the ghastly state of it project management around the world, with a brief reference to ai which grabbed my attention, and made me read the rest, even though it isn’t about ai at all.

Few IT projects are displays of rational decision-making from which AI can or should learn.

it doesn’t get any cheerier, and wraps up with

It may be a forlorn request, but surely it is time the IT community stops repeatedly making the same ridiculous mistakes it has made since at least 1968, when the term “software crisis” was coined

Oof.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/it-management-software-failures

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago

That’s pretty long and you should definitely repost it in the next sack. I lightly skimmed it and will read it in full later.

RE, the LLM of it all: Wonder how many times this has already happened:

“AI, please invent a new project management ideology for me, improving on agile and waterfall!”

“Certainly. Here’s AgileFall, a linear combination of the two. What the fuck were you expecting here?”

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Remember the german lawyer who tried to vibe code some compiler fixes. He did it again and learned nothing

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

JFC, man. Fuck this snivelling weasel. I read the whole thing. How dare he even suggest he has a fleck of humility in his being. He goes in saying he submitted his changes as an RFC instead of a pull request, but goes balls deep on trying to defend his work as worthy of submitting. Utter bullshit.

Some quotes:

My explicit statement of having "no desire to actually learn about the Mesa code-base" was not seen as a gesture of honest humility,

“I have no intent on understanding this codebase that I’m 100% sure I’ve created a good change for, be grateful, peasants.”

also, him, explicitly not a developer, spake thusly:

This sentiment exposes the raw nerve of the open-source world: developer burnout.

vibe codes once I am become jeff, coder at google

Finally, this massive turd:

The Mesa project's updated contributor guidelines, which now demand that any submitter of AI-assisted code must understand it as if they wrote it themselves, has been lauded by some as a pragmatic solution. I contend it is a policy of convenience, a blunt instrument designed not to solve a complex problem, but to legislate it out of existence. It is a fortress wall built to protect the status quo, and while it may offer the illusion of security, it does so at the cost of innovation and by silencing a new and potentially valuable class of contributors. The discussion should not end here, with a policy that prioritizes procedural purity over measurable progress. The true challenge has been misdiagnosed; the pathology is not the "user with an AI," but a rigid, legacy process that lacks the antibodies to handle a new form of discovery.

Honestly this guy should just start his own fucking codebase where him and his promptfondling circlejerk buddies can vibecode bricks together.

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[–] FredFig@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Crosslinking SRD: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1p88k7d/guys_were_gonna_be_okay_maybe_not_today_maybe_not/

Observing AI psychosis from a distance is so fascinating. "Valentine just got nerfed for me." What???

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

Neal Stephenson comes out strong and funny against GenAI here:

https://nealstephenson.substack.com/p/a-remarkable-assertion-from-a16z

"Hypothesis 1: it was written by a clanker"

[–] antifuchs@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lmao imagine reading a Stephenson book and being peeved that it ends

(His sex scenes are far far far worse than his endings, those are a mercy)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

oh yeah the relationship between the fusion-device wielding 30-something Aluetian freedom fighter and the 16 year old skateboard courier in Snow Crash is... of its time

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago

Years ago, I said, "I've never finished a Stephenson novel." Someone replied, "Neither has he."

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

kinda impressive that "Factor Fexcectorn" shows up twice, imagine how many credits were offered on the pyre of context management

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago

also what in the cursed fuck is going on with the glyphs over the "meter" bars

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[–] nightsky@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"K9: scom", just need to figure out what scom is.

But my favorite part is in the upper left, the brain that just says "Autism" and "Autism" around it.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

these are autism particles

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The article's abstract made me die a hundred times

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[–] corbin@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ziz was arraigned on Monday, according to The Baltimore Banner. She apparently was not very cooperative:

As the judge asked basic questions such as whether she had read the indictment and understood the maximum possible penalties, [Ziz] LaSota chided the “mock proceedings” and said [US Magistrate Douglas R.] Miller was a “participant in an organized crime ring” led by the “states united in slavery.”

She pulled the Old Man from Scene 24 gag:

Please state your name for the record, the court clerk said. “Justice,” she replied. What is your age? “Timeless.” What year were you born? “I have been born many times.”

The lawyers have accepted that sometimes a defendant is uncooperative:

Prosecutors said the federal case would take about three days to try. Defense attorney Gary Proctor, in an apparent nod to how long what should have been a perfunctory appearance on Monday ended up taking, called the estimate “overly optimistic.”

Folks outside the USA should be reassured that this isn't the first time that we've tried somebody with a loose grasp of reality and a found family of young violent women who constantly disrupt the trial; Ziz isn't likely to walk away.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago

She wants to be a martyr so bad, doesn't she? She desperately needs to be punished for the sake of her beliefs (and the things she did made others do). All for the great cause of… uh… y'know, the important thing she's being silenced for. Things like that.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

it happened again, I Posted. dash of thread to it too. some of y’all may enjoy

and yes that capital P is load bearing

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So I got jumpscared recently by that couple. I was listening to one of my many favourite podcasts, Threedom, when on the most recent episode, "I Definitely Tuned Out and I Agree With You", this exchange happened, starting around 44 minutes, give or take 10 for ads.

::: spoiler spoiler tagged exchange, in case you are a pisspig* and don't want spoilers. Context: the hosts are talking about how they value fostering their children's expressive abilities, even if that means their children do things like scream in inappropriate situations.

Scott: I guess what I'm trying to say is that some parents would look at us, and say, like, "oh, you're not teaching them how to act in social situations or whatever,"

Paul: Yes, you should slap them across the face, in the store.

Scott: Who was that... that... that, like, person who... there's some parent out there that thinks that you need to like have a million kids or whatever and uh, and a paper writer followed them around and he just smacked his kid right in front of the paper writ-, er... the journalist? Uh, anyway...

Lauren: Paper writer?

Scott: Yeah, sorry, sorry, Journalist.

Paul: Couldn't sound more specific, and yet I don't know.

Tried too hard transcribing this and still feel like I did a bad job.

Anyway, gosh, congrats to them on their extreme success in being platformed. Couldn't have been a more deserving couple. /s

*pisspig is the name given to a fan of the podcast Threedom. The fans picked the name, the hosts aren't really sure why.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 10 points 3 weeks ago

@swlabr

I do think this is the optimal way for the couple to be referenced in media.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fourth episode of our podcast about historical misogynist and bigoted texts, odium symposium, is out now. We discuss classic british racist enoch powell and his “rivers of blood” speech.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/144105193

(it should be available on every platform)

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Saw this quality nickname for prompt receivers: Chet Jippity

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