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The Justice Department is appealing the length of prison sentences for four Proud Boys leaders convicted of seditious conspiracy in the U.S. Capitol attack, challenging punishments that were significantly shorter than what prosecutors had recommended, according to court filings on Monday.

U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly sentenced former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Tarrio and three lieutenants to prison terms ranging from 15 to 22 years after a jury convicted them in May of plotting to stop the peaceful transfer of presidential power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden after the 2020 presidential election.

Tarrio’s 22-year sentence is the longest so far among hundreds of criminal cases stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, but prosecutors had sought 33 years behind bars for the Miami man.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I dunno, it's not just the length of the prison sentences. As felons, they now have a lifetime ban on firearms which is going to hurt them more, personally, than the prison time.

And you know the minute they get out, they're going to ignore that and instantly get tapped with felon in possession and go right back in again.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I dunno, I'm still pretty sure 16+ years of imprisonment would be worse in their opinions than not being able to legally buy guns.

[–] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Losing decades of your life, missing births, weddings, funerals, your own personal relationships and financial gain isnt gonna hurt as much as owning a boom-boom?

I just downright don't get gun people...

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Because it's not true. No one would trade half a year in jail for their gun rights. The idea is a cute little meme to make gun owners seem utterly unhinged.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're still gonna own guns, will just do so illegally. I've known a couple felons who have guns illegally. They're not gonna let a ban get in their way of owning tons of guns.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

They will however screech about how unfair it is when they get caught.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"No no, those arent my 37 firearms, those belong to my wife. Of course, she has the key for the safes, which means I don't have constructive possession of them"

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the only appealing thing about these people....

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

The prosecutors are the ones appealing. They want the sentence to be longer. Since they’re the ones prosecuting these scumbags, there is a lot of appealing things about them.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department is appealing the length of prison sentences for four Proud Boys leaders convicted of seditious conspiracy in the U.S. Capitol attack, challenging punishments that were significantly shorter than what prosecutors had recommended, according to court filings.

Tarrio’s 22-year sentence is the longest so far among hundreds of criminal cases stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol, but prosecutors had sought 33 years behind bars for the Miami man.

Nicholas Smith, Nordean’s attorney, said in an email that his client “is encouraged by the government’s agreement that errors led to the judgment and sentence in his case.”

Also on Monday, a Proud Boys member who joined others from the far-right group in attacking the Capitol pleaded guilty to obstructing the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress for certifying the victory by Biden, a Democrat, over Trump, a Republican.

Chrestman and other Proud Boys moved past a toppled metal barricade and joined other rioters in front of another police barrier.

Chrestman also pointed his finger at a line of Capitol police officers, gestured at them with his axe handle and threatened to assault them if they fired “pepper ball” rounds at the crowd of rioters, according to a court filing accompanying his guilty plea.


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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How successful are these appeals generally? I'd imagine an appeal court doesn't want to really step in unless there's a major problem with the judge's reasoning since they weren't there for the case and aren't looking to retry it.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IIRC the sentences were well below the sentencing guidelines for the charges and far below what prosecutors requested. Depending on which judges are paneled, there's a fair chance they'll at least be increased to lengths in the guidelines.

IMO sentences should be "conscript into UA for front-line assault" since they want to be patriotic heroes, but I guess that might be considered unconstitutional by someone.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Conscripting prisoners is a very Russian approach to criminal justice.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big difference is that Russian conscripts don't want to go to war. These assholes do. Just wouldn't be the one they wanted.

[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but my opinion that is the same as the fascists opinion isn't facist because I don't wanna be called a fascist is a very American approach to posting on the internet.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ignoring all context to make a fallacious argument is a very internet kind of post.

[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You literally suggested criminals should be forced fight a war they don't agree with because you don't agree with how they exercise their rights. Name something more fascist, I'll wait.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I suggested fascists intent on fighting a "patriotic fight for freedom" that are guilty of FUCKING INSURRECTION be given what they want by fighting a real patriotic fight against fascism in Ukraine.

Ignore context more.

[–] Wilibus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Understand that saying fascism is ok when you take my context into account is the same as saying fascism is ok.