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[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 199 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

after looking at their site....oh fuck no.

they offer lines of credit to pay your rent. but you have to pay back said credit by the end of the month so....why? If you're having trouble paying your rent getting a line of credit to cover it and then having to pay back said credit by the end of the month on top of a percentage AND membership fee it just sounds exactly like a payday loan where you KNOW they hope you roll over so you'll never be able to catch up.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 92 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Its the same model as payday loans. It's predatory lending plain and simple.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

They now have “freedom” to abuse their customers.

I’m sure you’ll feel that warm wet trickling down any day now

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It is a payday loan in the most classical sense that's why it exists.

Sometimes people aren't able to pay by the first so they have to get it paid somehow it absolutely relies on getting paid later on to pay off the loan.

They're just one half step above being a loan shark.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

The only difference between them is the loan shark can't take you to court to get their money back.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 weeks ago

Innovation! They cut out the middle man and let's you get screwed by just your landlord instead of the landlord and Copperhawks.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The US loves their useless, expensive middlemen.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 6 points 4 weeks ago

Landlord's brother probably runs the loan place.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 81 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

$15 plus 1% of rent plus card processing fees.

If your rent is $1200 and there's a 3.5% processing fee, you're looking at $70/month in extra fees.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When you're rich everything is free and when you're broke it costs a lot.

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 48 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This is clownshit.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 37 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Can he force you to enter a contract with them? Sounds illegal.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 58 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

No, I still have the option of paying it all at once without going through this finance company. But they’ve been spamming my email letting me know about the “new payment option.”

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 weeks ago

Report the emails as spam, especially if they're from the loan shark directly.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 weeks ago

That's when you reply to the company and tell them that you find their policies rather predatory and not too dissimilar from low-class "payday loan" companies and that you want them to remove you from their mailing list and you will from now on mark any emails from them as spam, and sent straight to the trash.

CC it to the landlord as well.

He has the right to use their services, but you have the right not to do business with them. Your agreement is with the landlord NOT a third party that came in after the fact.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

All at once? It's either monthly with fees or a whole year of payments? This sounds illegal but what's legal these days. I would say fuck this guy and give him a check every month and if he refuses then put it in a escrow account and tell him if he will only take one lump payment then he can wait until the end of the year to collect it.

By forcing lump payments they are removing your bargaining power when shit goes wrong. Withholding rent is the only power a renter has.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean all at once as a monthly payment, not for the full year.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago

Ahh then just block the emails.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

14.99 plus payment fee of 1% of rent amount. So if your rent is 2k that's another $20 per payment.

For what? Please tell me this is not the only payment option.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

My apartment complex tried outsourcing their payment portal, attaching a fee to it, and making it the only way to pay.

I ended up going down to the office to write a check in front of them once a month, making sure to complain loud enough to be overheard when they had other people inquiring about apartments.

Apartments these days will nickle and dime you to death. Late in my tenancy, they wanted me to sign up to have my pets put into a database. They were also going to charge $25 per pet per month to have them in the database. You bet your ass I was in their office the next day with my pet addendum to discuss their breach of contract. My rabbits were not the dogs that kept getting loose and shitting all over the place.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Had an apartment a while back, they changed owners and didn't really tell anyone until I got a note on my door saying next months rent, due in a week, can't be done online, needed to be cash check or money order or eviction process would start. What if I was out of the country or working remotely and didn't get the note? No email, no call, just note on the door.

I threw a fucking fit, this was the last straw after a parking lot flooded with gravel, moldy laundry rooms, flooded apartment. Then threaten me with eviction because of their bullshit?

I wrote up my refusal to renew then, like 2 months into a new lease. Made them reimburse me for having to get a money order (don't have checks), then began looking to buy. When renewal came up, they said I needed to renew and raised the prices. I referred them to my email and printout and told them to fuck themselves.

They tried to bill me for cleaning after I moved out, just never replied.

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Short answer: late stage capitalism

Long answer: Because they don't have enough money to make rent on time and the associated fees are less than the late fees. Being poor is expensive.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

I just moved from a shithole place that used and promoted Flex. The alternative was $300 late fees.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Same reason people finance their groceries over 4 weekly payments now.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Rocket Mortgage has had this commercial for a couple years where some schlub is trudging back into his house lamenting the fact that six bags of groceries has become two (thanks to inflation). Suddenly his house starts talking to him and reminding him that he could get a Rocket Mortgage loan backed by his small amount of equity and use the money to buy groceries. Dude lights up with joy and dances into this house. It's just beyond fucked that this is obviously one of their most successful commercials. It's amazing that they can turn borrowing money for food into a positive.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 9 points 4 weeks ago

I just got a postcard of this in the mail!

It wasn't from the landlord though and it didn't have any identifying information.

What a garbage company.

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[–] maudelix@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Same shit as with pet screening. I already have to pay a $200 deposit for having a cat, a $30 per month fee for both cats and now $40 per cat per year for pet screening.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 19 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

What does your lease say about payment and methods of payment?

I would suggest physically handing a nice big bag with a mix of nickels, dimes and quarters to a designated recipient.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Most leases these days specifically do not accept cash. However, I believe in most states, they are required by law to accept bank transfers without a fee.

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[–] perry@lemy.lol 16 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Which country is this? Do most landlords do this? /gen

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 38 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

When I lived in NYC, one of my apartments had a tipping option on the website

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Hollow tip are best, they spall inside the landlord and are less likely to exit out the back and damage anything of value.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Wow. Either someone was too lazy to turn of the default settings, or figured it was appropriate to ask. Either way, that's some shocking lack-of-awareness going on.

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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm sure this is the US. And this is the first time I've heard of it in 35 years of renting.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's in canada also. My gf had to pay a rental payment fee for the system they use. Same with enwin utilities in ontario. They just installed a new tax for no reason.

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[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 weeks ago

Insurers do this to doctors, too. They take a large "convenience fee" for electronic payment to the doctor. And they have no option to get physical checks. The relevant US regulatory agency briefly declared it illegal, but was convinced by lobbying their rule wouldn't hold up against a lawsuit, so they withdrew it. And Congress doesn't care to make the law more clear.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

All landlords are leeches. Every single one of them.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This could actually be interesting if it was the opposite...

You can get a small discount, and pre pay the next month in advance. You can miss any of those payments up until the end of the month when the remaining balance is due.

The discount is based off how much you paid early.

Landlord gets a reduced risk as every early payment is money that is in his hands and available up to a month before.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

How is this different than putting 1/4 of your rent in a separate account each week?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

You have to pay $14/month, plus processing fees on top of it.

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