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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 99 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why was Epic even interested in Bandcamp in the first place??

This fucking blows. Start downloading all your music you've bought, you soon won't be able to own anything online anymore.

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure they Epic bought Bandcamp for their battle with Apple and then did literally nothing with it.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since I discovered bandcamp in 2017, I always downloaded all the music I bought

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Epic doesn't care about any particular product or service. They are a publishers with aims to become a storefront, but plan to do so by passing off customers and devs and partners.

[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

If you didn't download it, then what's the point?

[–] drd@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like back in March 2022 Epic did not really anticipate market conditions to continue to worsen. Big miscalculation on their part.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm so fucking tired, you guys.

[–] beetus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop reading the news and spend some time in your local community. It's the best way I've found to shake that feeling of dread and exhaustion

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

We meet under the 5th street bridge at midnight, the code word is sic semper tyrannis

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 years ago

Man, I wish Bandcamp would catch a break already, I actually like (liked?) the platform. I like supporting artists I like and I like supporting platforms that sell DRM-free music. If Bandcamp goes away and no other DRM-free alternative comes up, it's back to piracy for me.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck you Epic for many reasons, but for this one in particular

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This has to end at some point. Practically everything is owned by like 5 companies, and they don't even acquire them for any particular reason, other than to prevent someone else from doing the same.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminds me of my monopoly strategy

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's their monopoly strategy too. Difference is that we're playing it with toy pieces, and they're playing it for real

[–] Fluid@aussie.zone 26 points 2 years ago

Man… we can’t have anything nice… damn capitalists fucking every thing up

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, I don't think Epic ever did anything with Bandcamp. What a terrible way to end it. What will become of the artists who use it as their main platform? I source a significant amount of my music from these artist, from that site.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do you think this is the end?

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

My apologies, I mean a terrible way for Epic to end their ownership. I hope that Bandcamp will continue and thrive but this move doesn't seem encouraging. Songtradr is monopolizing music at this point.

[–] hai@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Could someone fill me in on why we’re panicking about it being sold? Epic never seemed to do anything to it and it seems Songtradr is keeping it’s the same, does Songtradr have a bad track record or something?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just feel out of the loop.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Effectively firing half the employees seems like a strong sign that the new owners are going to ruin what made Bandcamp good.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Holy fucking shit they fired 830 employees. Considering what Bandcamp has done (nothing for years despite being pretty terrible UX-wise) and how simple it is, why the fuck did they originally have 1600+ employees?

A startup with < 50 people could make it work. They don't need hundreds of employees. Lay off more and actually focus on development FFS.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

However, most of the employees they laid off are those in charge of the Bandcamp blog, which is full of good articles and music recommendations. I think it's the best editorial team. Bandcamp really needs them if they want to keep the quality.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's sad but how critical are those people / how many do they need? I didn't even know Bandcamp had a blog. I use it in a very simple way: I find music I want to own somewhere, check out if it's on Bandcamp, if it is, I buy it and download it to my library. If not, I have one other place to get it (a "local" eshop that also sells music for download) and then it is the high seas.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Three of the editorial employees announced that they were laid off, and they seem to have received a lot of praise from artists, small labels, and fans.
Here's the blog:
daily.bandcamp.com

[–] slouching_employer@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, the article says that Epic Games “laid off 16% of its [Epic Games’] workforce, or 830 employees”.

I believe Bandcamp was ~120 people total – so 60 laid off.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago

Ahh my bad, can't read apparently. That amount of employees sounds way more reasonable, even if I feel like they weren't doing much.

[–] Chinzon@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Since they were purchased by epic games last year, roughly half of the original staff were laid off. Being bought by a corporate entity that values profitability over all esle is devastating to a website like this where music (and culture) have thrived

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[–] quams69@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Anyone got alternatives?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


One of the worst tech labor years ever continues with the news that roughly half of Bandcamp employees have been laid off.

Epic Games bought the indie music platform back in 2022 for an undisclosed amount before selling it barely a year later.

Late last month, Epic Games laid off 16 percent of its workforce, or 830 employees, due to what CEO Tim Sweeney described as overspending.

Epic also revealed that it would sell the Bandcamp business to California-based music licensing company Songtradr.

Employees who did not receive offers from Songtradr were notified today and will be eligible for severance.

In an email to The Verge, Songtradr confirmed that 50 percent of Bandcamp employees have been extended offers to join Songtradr and reaffirmed from a previous statement the company’s commitment to keeping the Bandcamp experience the same.


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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago