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I feel like poetry is so complicated no one is gonna understand it.

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don’t have to publish it in order to make it worthwhile, writing poetry for its own sake is perfectly valid. Not even the most prolific writers in history ever published everything they wrote.

[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago

Agreed. Art is its own purpose.

[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There once was a poet at home

Who’d not write a verse of his own

No poem was made

So none was displayed

Unwritten, unpublished, unknown

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] MohamedMoney@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago
[–] ryokimball 10 points 4 months ago

Some people write novels and epics to never be seen. Some people build castles that only they will ever step foot in.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The urge to monetize or publicize everything is toxic, i think. I spend a lot of time writing or doing ttrpg design because i enjoy the activity.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This.

I paint, I do it because I like the process.

But society always wants us "productive" in the sense earning money.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

Yes. Some of it I've put online or submitted to journals, but most is just for me and my loved ones.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, yeah. Getting poetry published in the first place is an uphill battle, even compared to prose publishing. It's been a long time since poetry was core to pop culture, despite the occasional surges. Which means there's no money in it unless you somehow manage to have the right connections and a lot of luck.

That, in turn, disincentivizes writers from after actively working on poetry. It becomes a much more casual thing, which means that the craft of it rarely gets honed the way other branches of writing do.

There's less written, in part because there's less read, which leads to lower quality work, which decreases interest, which decreases cash flow, which means less gets written. It's a spiral.

Poetry as a hobby is viable. Poetry as anything to try and get others to read is much less so.

Hell, i don't think I've written a serious poem in a decade. Some occasional lines will pop in my head, I jot them down, but they never connect or spark a continuance. I do the occasional bit of drivel, or a rhymed joke. Even a jokey song once, but even if I was cranking them out like I did as a teenager, I wouldn't even bother posting them on lemmy, much less a more poetry-centric place

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When was the last time you heard someone say “new issue of Ploughshares just dropped”

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

I think that's fine.

I write books when I feel a need to do something creative, I've never published any of them. Its simply a means to exercise creativity.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly sounds like a cool hobby to have. You don't need to publish it to make it worthwhile like others have said, but that said, there's no harm in throwing it out there somewhere on the internet.

Maybe we should even have a dedicated community for sharing these sorts of things, hobbyists and dilletantes sharing what they make and giving each other constructive feedback or just discussing it, without influencers/promoters/businesses and the lack of an online following being a requirement, and also without it being seen as advertising/promoting/shilling.

The whole thing framed as a sort of variety showcase, where sharing is a bit more personal and the person sharing can give some information about who they are and what they do and maybe make friends or meet like-minded people along the way, a community where just about anything goes from a table to a poem as long as the poster made it themselves and they aren't promoting, and the lurkers in such a community would get a diverse feed of all sorts of things they probably never would have interacted with otherwise, with maybe even some diamonds in the rough.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I love this idea, and thought about exactly this when looking for places to share my Pocket Paint kinda-sorta-collage monstrosities (not quite memes, too many borrowed materials for me to feel great about posting in ArtShare, etc.)

Basically just a pretty loose 'i made this' community. There's a couple in that sort of vein but didn't quite have the feel I was (and it sounds like you are) going for. !originalpoetry@literature.cafe is a decent community for poems specifically, though, and could use more love.

Ugh...starting to think I need to get over my allergy to moderating...

Edit: you know what, I'm taking some of this back. !imadethis@lemmy.zip is looking like it fits better than when I last thought about it.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 4 months ago

Poetry, music, entire books, video games...

I'm really good at starting shit; terrible at finishing shit.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

I've written countless songs. Recorded some with my band back years ago but never published. I've toyed with the idea of submitting the lyrics for fair use somehow but never got around to it.

[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wrote a short story type thing during my summer vacs which i was very proud of lol, it was incomplete tho and read more like some part from a novel (not the same quality but like u get it), however never shared it to anyone coz was embarrassed of what others wud think of the idea of the story even tho i was proud of it myself

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If someone laughs at you, that's when you tell them:

RESPECT MAH AUTHROITAH!

xD

Lmaoo ok bro that made me laugh way too hard😭

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

It's perfectly okay to write things just for yourself. Healthier than average behavior I would even argue

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A little bit, yeah. I think it's actually really common, for a variety of reasons. Some people just do it as a time-filler, or a self-reflection exercise, or just for pure creative pleasure. They may feel no need to share it at all, or may want to share it but aren't sure how.

I'd say if you're in the latter camp, most places I've been have at least a small literary scene, with open readings, zine exchanges, or even small publishers. If you want to, you can go out and meet the other weirdos sharing their stuff, and I think there's value in doing so in meatspace.

But if you want to write poems purely for the pleasure of the activity, or whatever other personal purpose, that's 100% valid. There are worse ways to fill time.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah. Not a ton, but yeah. I havr a number of poems chillin' in my notes and if i ever feel like they're 'finished' I'll post them somewhere.

I posted one to lemmy a while back.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I paint and sketch and do not want people to ever look at them. I assume poetry can be the same.

Nothing wrong with doing things for only your own enjoyment.

You don’t have to try to measure up to others, or have to be great, or sell your hobbies as a side hustle. They’ve always been got enjoyment first.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I’ve wrote some poems, usually in English, and just shared them out with my friends but not much beyond that.

I think they’re good, I just have trouble approaching the spotlight, even though I want my work to be seen.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

I used to, a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away. I did get a couple of unpaid publishings, and did some self publishing of other people. I'm not sure I could pull it off anymore.

Never is a long word, but I have a bunch of poems and short stories and other errata that I think seems unlikely to ever see the light of publication. I have submitted poems to journals and other publications (never successfully published though), but the vast majority of my writing is compost that I'll turn over every few months and see if I want to revisit it. Occasionally I'll tweak things here and there or, more likely, reading an old thing will inspire a new thing that gets added to the pile. Maybe I'll get something published someday. Maybe I'll be a modern Emily Dickinson and get famous posthumously. Or maybe, like most poets, I'll fade unremarkably and unremarked-upon into the wash of history. I'm content with any of these outcomes.

[–] truite@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

Yes. I post some on internet or zine but that's all. But poetry isn't necessarily complicated. It can but doesn't have to.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would you like to post your poetry here? I think most people are pretty happy just to have content on the platform.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Considering it.

I'm kinda wanna post poems in two languages, two versions, like idk, I feel like I could get a better "release of emotions" if I use both of my top 2 languages.

Also, then I can bring more activity to the Chinese Language community xD. (probably nobody would understand the Chinese version tho lol, there's like less than 10 Chinese readers on the fediverse, then again, my own Chinese vocabulary is kinda very limited)

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 1 points 4 months ago

Yes. Usually for my wife. And usually it's terrible free verse.