And the consequences when he breaks this order less than 24 hours from now?
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Fucking right?! Can we just lock him up just this once? I'm sick of him dominanting the discourse. I just want universal healthcare/ basic income.
You just want things that our current overlords will never give us. Don’t worry, I’m on your side. We’ll get there, eventually.
Vote.
Better happen sooner then later. America is just asking for a John Q moment.
Can you indulge a non American idiot. What's a John q moment. All I'm finding when searching is a denzel Washington movie with the synopsis not giving quite enough context to fit
It's essentially what took place in that movie. Health care wouldn't cover a life saving procedure for Denzel Washington's character's child. So he held up the hospital until his child got care. I honestly forgot how it ended. But if I had to guess he gets shot and his kid gets to live.
Edit:
John is ultimately acquitted of attempted murder and armed criminal action, but convicted of kidnapping and false imprisonment. His lawyer assures him that he will likely serve no more than two years. As John is escorted from the courthouse, Lester proclaims him as a hero, and a now-healthy Michael gains eye contact with his father, saying "Dad!" and then, "Thank you".
I honestly think there's going to be a mass shooting at an insurance or pharmaceutical company. Someone's eventually going to go after a CEO out of spite
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For some reason no media seem to have linked to a copy of the gag order, but prior reporting suggests that the judge's threat if Trump violates the order is to do one thing he really doesn't want the court to do, which is move up the trial date.
Which is a quite reasonable move.
"Dude continues with his threats? Alright, let's get this over with. And add his threats to the pile of evidence."
The theory is hey, if he's going to keep trying to tamper with witnesses and jurors, were going to expedite the trial to minimize his opportunity.
Probably along with fines.
the consequences when he breaks this order
Probably another huge influx of campaign cash.
And the consequences when he breaks this order less than 24 hours from now?
Sneak peak from the future.
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Supposedly having the trial sooner.
"That were three more violations in yesterdays speech, so we will move the trial back another three weeks. See you in court next Tuesday, Mr. Trump."
They'll issue another gag order...
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I’m counting the hours until this dumbass violates that order.
Hours? Someone's an optimist
Optimist? I'd say pessimist.
An optimist hopes for seconds.
That's optimistic.
What's optimistic is thinking they have the spine to enforce it.
Sadly true.
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2 gag orders in 2 seperate cases. He really should shut the fuck up for once
hold on a bit. I kind of want to watch him make things worse for him.
Lol don't worry
“He does not have the right to say and do exactly what he pleases. Do you agree with that?” she asked Trump attorney John Lauro, who responded: “100%.”
oooooooo someone is getting yelled at today
Until someone actually does something about it, he absolutely does.
She added: “If the message Mr. Trump wants to express is ‘my prosecution is politically motivated,’” he can do so without using “highly charged language.”
That hurts. That would be sentences with words of four and five syllables! He will fail to pronounce them, or his followers won't understand them. Win-Win.
I wonder what pictures his "speech writers" will draw on his cue cards for a sentence like that ;-)
Trump will soon be telling his cult that the judge said "‘my prosecution is politically motivated".
hello, I'm not a native english speaker and I know two distinct meaning of the word "gag" and neither of them make sense in this context. so what does "gag order" mean?
I'm guessing the 2 uses you already know are 'joke' and 'to retch/nearly vomit'?
Another meaning of 'gag' is to physically tie something around their mouth to stop them from speaking (like in films when people get material or tape in their mouths to muffle their cries for help in a kidnap scene? That material would be the 'gag')
Obviously in this instance it's not a literal gag, although I'm sure there's plenty of people who wish it could be. A 'gagging order' is a metaphor for not being able to speak about things
Gag orders can forbid people from publicly discussing a case or aspects of it.
ahh okay, thank you!
Think of it as a "you cannot talk about something" order. So a gag is something put in a person's mouth to keep them from talking. So he is not allowed to talk about a specific subject (in this case parts of the case specifically things he has said that could be considered threatening or attempting to influence witnesses or jurors) so he has been "gaged"
And in case you are wondering how the fuck you get him to shut up. If he violates the order he can be "held in contempt of court" which means that you were legally told to do something and you didn't. It can be punished with fines and/or jail time. Which may not deter him.
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History has proven that he does. Gag orders don’t do shit to him.
It all depends what the judge is willing to do about violations. If they really threaten the administration of justice, fines are probably the first step, but imprisonment is on the table though it seems unlikely to go that far. A new judge may treat these differently, or take previous gag order violations into account.
Hasn’t he violated every gag order put on him so far?
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