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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile I'm being taxed far too much

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

T(axed) E(nough) A(lready) Party

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Axed nough lready

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They've been allowed to game the system to hoard way more wealth than any single person should have been able to. They were supposed to pay their employees more, charge less to their customers or if all fails pay more taxes. But they didn't do any of that.

If this was a video game that would be called an "exploit that breaks the gameplay experience for everyone else" and it would have been solved in a patch. But to remain in the same analogy, they are buddies with the game developers so they're allowed to do anything they want. The only difference is that everyone in the country is forced to play this broken game as it is.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've played fallout for more than 2 decades. How the fuck are we diving face first into every sci-fi dystopia at the same time? Like, there's hints of star wars, dune, fallout, 1984, the outer worlds, hunger games, Idiocracy etc. I'm hoping cyberpunk 2077 shows up and gives a sliver of a chance.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because those things were based on the real world and we are very bad at learning from the ever-growing list of mistakes we can’t stop making.

Cyberpunk 2077 is not a good world and does not have a good ending. That world is a horrid, capitalist dystopia. Maybe you should watch Edgerunners if you still can’t figure it out from the game.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The point was that as bad as cyberpunk's future is, I'm fairly certain ours will be worse in 52 years. At least in their timeline there's a resistance.

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[–] zaki_ft@lemmings.world 11 points 1 month ago

The main reason is because people are stupid and get taken advantage of accordingly.

Every time you saw a moron say "they're a business and they need to make money!" you saw someone lowering their standards to make a rich person richer.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These assholes get taxed 1-2% on their total wealth increases per year - and even that gets offset with their loopholes - meanwhile the average people pay anywhere between 30-50% of just their income (and that doesn't account for other taxes like VAT, property, vehicle and road taxes, and so on).

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

And not only that, but if you taxed them at 99% they’d still have silly amounts of money and ungodly financial security while even 20% off a poor person being paid by a less rich local business is just hurting the both of them. Taxes are a good thing but like you say they are horrendously unbalanced.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No one should have enough money to purchase entire branches of government. Musk could give every member of congress 10 million and still be a billionarie many times over. That kind of wealth is not compatible with democracy.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seize their assets, fund NASA.

That's how you actually make America great.

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

National space programs suck. We need a united international space push. Something overseen by... Let's call it the Union Aerospace Corporation. When earth science and tech is combined who knows what they can do on distant research bases set up in places like Mars. Maybe even open portals to transfer matter and energy across vast distances.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You would think more people on Lemmy would recognize a Doom reference. I've never played any Doom game but that was enough for me to go "That's Doom right?" and confirm with a quick search

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are choosing to devote vast amounts of finite earth resources on their space man hobbies instead of using any of it to fix or improve the situation on earth, in their countries or for anyone else other than themselves. These people should be dragged out of their comfortable lives for crimes against humanity.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They have nothing to improve. Their life is great. And that's the problem.

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[–] senorseco@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It's not a policy failure at all. It's a systemic feature. Capitalism is dog eat dog until only one dog remains. If you want to fix it you need a new economic system.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

90% should be the minimum after 1 million a year

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd go for 99% after 5 bil

Log tax rate.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 5 points 1 month ago

Billionaires shouldn't exist at all

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I say we put them all in a rocket and shoot them into space...

That's it. Problem solved.

[–] GuyLivingHere@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Anchor and chains in 20m waters is much cheaper.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's a clear sign the government isn't, itself, spending enough on spaceflight and associated R&D.

Turning our next generation of economic and military supremacy over to the dipshit horn dogs that tanked retail sales and fucked up the post office seems like a huge mistake.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With higher progressive taxes, not only do we stop billionaires from possibly existing, but the government gets more resources to spend on spaceflight R&D among other things.

[–] Bimfred@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Governments HAVE the resources. They CHOOSE to not spend it on R&D.

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Both can be true

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago

it isn't. it is an intended best case scenario for those invested. capitalism rewards trickery and thievery. excess wealth is part of its system dependent on class hierarchies. it was millionaires before billionaires and now we're about to have our first trillionaire. for fucks sake.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think we just need to send them into space... Forcibly. Permanently.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what they want. We can't eat the rich if we can't reach the rich.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

The fact that there are billionaires is the sign that they're not being taxed enough.

Massive infrastructure / R&D projects like a space race is actually one of the more productive ways that billionaires could use their money.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't even know who the first one is and I'm kind of afraid of finding out

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not that it really matters but he's been knighted.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

She should have swung that sword a lot harder

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

If billionaires are the ruling class, then it's a policy success.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

nor that they give a rat's ass about sustainability, humanity, earth etc like some of them like Elon claims

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

If you've got money to waste on doing the same space shots that they've been doing for the last 65 years, just with newer technology, all while people in America are hungry, and suffering from lack of health care, then we should take away everything they own, and redistribute it to the people. We can even name each distribution after the benefactor. First we'll have the Musk distribution, then the Bezos, distribution, then the Ellison distribution, etc.

And their companies, primarily created and made profitable by government grants and tax breaks, belong to the American people, and they should be confiscated, and operated for the profit benefit of the American people. To make it fair, the billionaire, and his descendents, will always have an entry level job available, at entry level wages, but they will be treated like any other employees, and can be fired without rehiring privileges. They aren't entitled to any special treatment, other than a guaranteed job. After that, they have to behave themselves.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If there was a space race then you can guarantee that elon would want it out of the country.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

$999,999,999 is just fine though!

Stop focusing on an arbitrary figure and start focusing on a real progressive income tax with no loopholes or workarounds.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

"Billionaire" is a sound bite to focus attention. Publicizing "An improved progressive taxation rate" isn't as marketable.

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