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Rep. Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, still faces an uphill climb to the House speakership, with at least 10 to 20 Republican members who oppose his nomination, CBS News has learned, based on background conversations over the weekend with six key House Republicans and more than a dozen sources familiar with the deliberations.

"At least 10 to 20," one of the House Republicans told CBS News on Sunday, while another added that that Jordan's support has grown incrementally in recent days but remains soft.

While Jordan's confidants remain optimistic that he can get to the necessary 217 votes Tuesday, when the House is scheduled to bring a vote to the floor, several who are more critical of Jordan privately insisted this weekend that at about a dozen Republicans remain unwilling to support him, due to their frustrations over how Rep. Steve Scalise, Republican of Louisiana, was treated during his speaker bid and their simmering anger over the ouster of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy. They also are wary of whether Jordan can handle the intensity of the challenges facing Congress in the coming months.

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[–] Wilmo@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As an Ohioan myself. Fuck Gym Jordan. He shouldn't be allowed to hold a government position.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah his actions at OSU should’ve disqualified him before he opened his mouth

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The leading GOP nominee for Speaker is 10-20 votes away (at best).

The leading Democratic nominee for Speaker is 5 votes away.

I can't help thinking there should be a built-in way to bypass this obvious deadlock. Maybe the Parliamentarian should come up with something.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they do, I can almost guarantee it will favor the Republicans like it generally does.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

They do indeed know how to manipulate the system.

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] iamnotdave@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is he literally the nominee because no one else wants it?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He's also one of the biggest fucking clowns there... I can't stand watching any committee/hearing/investigation he's on...

Of all the people, how do we always end up with the worst...

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Of all the people, how do we always end up with the worst...

We have yet to see the worst, unfortunately. If there's 1 thing I've learned about the GOP, it's that they can always reach into their bottomless pit of depravity to pull out an even bigger degenerate.

Remember when people thought it couldn't get any worse than Bush/Cheney? Oh how wrong we were.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would seem so. I think it's more like "everyone else knows they can't get the votes" though. There's going to be enough that don't want to give in to the MAGA extremists holding the party hostage and there's enough MAGA extremists to stop anyone halfway same from being elected speaker.

I have no idea how this fuckwit thinks he's going to get the votes. 10 to 20 seems extremely low. I bet the vote ends up more like 80-100 short.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Gym Jordan probably ticks off enough of the magoos' check boxes. I'm not sure he was even qualified to be a coach, but he knows how to suck up to the crazies, that's for sure. And that's assuming he's not as bugfuck crazy as they are...

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

What a colossal shift right we are when Jordan makes McCarthy makes Ryan makes Boehner look moderate...

This country feels so fucked.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So he needs to groom 10 to 20 people in an organization that he wants to oversee?

We're in trouble. This is his wheelhouse.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I see what you did there

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem, though, is that Jim is a spiteful and vengeful person, and so are the extreme Right in general. A lot of Republicans are getting in line simply because they don't want the stochastic terrorism directed at them.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This will just make public the horrible charges against him related to his time at Ohio State.

Before entering politics, Jordan was an assistant OSU wrestling coach from 1986 to 1994. Former athletes have said he ignored rampant sexual abuse by Richard Strauss, a team doctor who died in 2005. Jordan has long denied helping orchestrate a cover-up.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Do you really think Republicans care? This isn't even the first time they have nominated a wrestling coach / pedo enabler for Speaker.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Heck they even had a pedo president! Need I remind anyone of Trump's creepy comments about his own daughter?

Their god literally bragged about sexually assaulting women, creeping on children changing, and wanting to fuck his daughter.

Idk why anyone thinks the GOP and Republicans as a whole find abhorrent behavior a deal breaker.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's our job to make them care. Republicans will do everything they can to ignore it.

Dude, they came out in record numbers to vote for a person who actively bragged about being an abhorrent monster. They're never going to care as long as the person has an R next to their name, unless we suddenly find a few million cult deprogrammers.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They just shrug their shoulders when an entire classroom of children is executed. They don't care about anything but power.

[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Only 10-20 or twenty R's support the constitution? I shouldn't be surprised.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They'll have a few rounds of voting with negotiations in between and they'll fall in line. Welcome to America where even the biggest far-right asshats can now become Speaker of the House.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

This is all performative. Don't think for a second that those 10-20 give a shit about the rule of law or common decency - it's theater. They are in districts where they have constituents that need them to feign a bit of a "moral block", to really scratch their chins for a moment and come to the eventual conclusion that, "the people just can't wait any longer, I guess I have to vote for gym Jordan - you understand, grandma"

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Is the whole "holdout as personal leverage against my own party" going to be a new trend? Seems like it elevates oneself at the expense of everyone else.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"At least 10 to 20," one of the House Republicans told CBS News on Sunday, while another added that that Jordan's support has grown incrementally in recent days but remains soft.

While Jordan's confidants remain optimistic that he can get to the necessary 217 votes Tuesday, when the House is scheduled to bring a vote to the floor, several who are more critical of Jordan privately insisted this weekend that at about a dozen Republicans remain unwilling to support him, due to their frustrations over how Rep. Steve Scalise, Republican of Louisiana, was treated during his speaker bid and their simmering anger over the ouster of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

Some Trump allies, like former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, have told associates privately that Jordan made a strategic mistake by not bringing a vote to the floor last week.

Sources say Jordan will try to rally GOP members on Monday night, when House Republicans are scheduled to huddle again, arguing it's time to put this political mess behind them.

And certainly, if there is a need if the radical, you know, almost just handful of people in the Republican side ... to make it for us unable to be able to return to general work on the House, then I think obviously, there will be a deal we'll have to be done."

If Jordan is unable to secure enough support by Tuesday's vote, some key Jordan skeptics and veteran Republicans are now preparing to push for a bipartisan deal that would expand the ability of Rep. Patrick McHenry, Republican of North Carolina, to move legislation on Israel and government funding through his current ministerial role as speaker pro tempore.


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