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Man next year is going to be another good VR year.
I’m here for it.
Ive been out of the loop, what made this year good? Anything notable?
Steam Frame, Arm Proton, and Linux VR on steam.
If the price for their device isn't too high, I might actually finally own a VR headset.
There's no way I'd ever buy something from Meta. All the other devices are way too expensive and compliated to set up. This new Valve Frame is going to be perfect.
My guess is around $1,000 USD
They haven't said the final price, but they've said it will be cheaper than the index, so definitely the under $1000.
The Index was $1,000.
If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.
$1 Bob
I would like to buy a vowel.
Oops Wrong Bob.
If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.
I'll guess $900.
but they’ve said it will be cheaper than the index
I missed this - that would be lovely
I thought they said they are aiming to at least not be more expensive than the Index? So 1000 USD might still be in the ball range, but it might very likely be less expensive.
Seeing as the Quest is their main competitor it'll have to be less expensive if it's to gain any traction.
If the pricing was going to be what we want, they'd have straight up told us it.
Does this mean steam is soon to distribute ARM Linux native builds?
Would hope so. Maybe that means linux phones will be able to run steam.
What I wouldn't give for a Valve Phone now that you mention it.
Valve engineers fed up with software, singlehandedly make arch-based handheld, arch-based gaming console, arch-based VR headset, arch-based smartphone, arch-based EV.
How to print infinite money
You can already run Steam games on Android, using the same protocol as Valve (FEx) with an app called GameNative.
probably not, they've been building a translation layer called FEX that does x86 -> ARM, reasonable to expect it's an x86 build optimized for FEX and the hardware specs of the Frame https://github.com/FEX-Emu/FEX
but honestly who knows, they might just release an ARM native build, it's their own damn game, they were one of the earliest gaming companies to port games originally written for windows to linux, it's entirely possible they'll do a full port (am I remembering wrong internet?)
the FEX thing is underrated, I know FEX isn't new but the news that we can expect to performantly run almost our entire steam catalogue on ARM hardware is wild
Steam Frame is going to have a snapdragon processor and will "be a computer".
So there will be an ARM native Steam client (and Steam OS that may or may not be SteamOS). Just a question on whether that gets a wider release.
But yes. Games themselves will be heavily dependent on FEX.
Eh, if they're doing it for Half Life Alyx, it'll likely work like Proton, where Steam will automatically install a native version if it's available, and you can "force a compatibility tool" if you'd prefer to run the original version through FEX. Presumably any dev would be able to upload a native ARM version for Steam Frame/a hypothetical Steam Deck 2, but I imagine very few will.
Edit: Valve engineers pretty much confirmed this to Gamer's Nexus, as they described Steam automatically installing the best version for your device, and that you can manually override that.
We'll see ARM Steam before 64bit Steam.
Isn’t 64bit Steam Client due to drop for Windows imminently? They end 32bit support at the start of next year supposedly.
Ngl good decision. When you setup the groundwork developing tech for linux is MUCH easier than windows.
(I just had to wrestle with mingw-w64 for 2 hours straight)
And here I just want Half Life 3 to be Linux exclusive for 1 year. I mean, if you make a console-like, you might as well go some exclusives. :)
I wonder how well it'd run under WSL? It would be funny as shit to force the Windows Gamers (real Gamers only play MOBAs and eSports /s) to fuck around with compatibility layers like Linux users do.
If it's like anything else running in WSL, absolutely as slow as balls. Most Linux apps are written with the assumption that filesystem operations are incredibly fast, whereas that's not true with Windows. Most games open one big file and do big reads from it so it's not such a problem, whereas something like Git assumes that touching tens of thousands of files should be basically instant.
Exclusives are bullshit.
Linux can be installed on any computer for free, so I wouldn't call not making a Windows binary exclusive, unless all the games I need Proton to run are exclusive too.
If Windows users want to play Half Life 3 they can just ask Microsoft to make a reverse WINE lol
I was worried when they didn't show off Alyx on the Frame and only streamed it. Getting Alyx to work natively on the Frame would be fantastic to show off VR on the go.
Half Life 3 would be such a big sales boost for the Gabecube
“Valve reportedly cooking”
Ever since “cooked” became a thing I have been unable to understand titles like this (or really the slang use of cook)
Based on the article, it looks like Valve is creating a native Linux version of the game.
someone is cooking (in production) vs:
someone cooked (completely did a thing)
someone is cooked (game over, bad decisions were made, here comes the result)
Thank you.
At the risk of sounding like grandpa, I could have sworn in production used to be “is cooking UP” instead of just “is cooking”.
The fluidity of language.
A lot of slang tends to be shortening of phrases, its happened with lots of older slang, though I don't have any examples off the top of my head right now
I assumed that hla was linux native since it launched.
Edit: It was, the title just sucks. Arm native.
I thought Alyx had a STEAMOS native build already, is that not true?
Related: has anyone actually tried Alyx on Linux recently? I set up ALVR with my facebook quest the other month and every game except Alyx was fine. Half-assed googling makes it sound like that was a known issue but there are also probably like five people on the planet trying Alyx in Proton.
I played the native Linux version of Alyx on my Valve Index last week, worked fine.
This is an absolute no-brainer on their part
Great game, but lets get the next installment instead.
Half Life: Alyx, Chapter 2
And then...
Half Life: Fred.
Let's get an escape room game playing as Eli escaping the crumbling black mesa!
the gpu is weak, but with proper foveated rendering it is absolutely good enough I think