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This is so funny because rust has one of the worst cheating situations and majority of their players are windows users, and theres lots of games that have anticheat that allows linux and have notably less significant cheating problems like marvel rivals. in reality rust doesn't take cheating very seriously because if they did they would have more server side software that detects illegitimate behaviour like tons of other games do successfully...... even most popular Minecraft servers have better functioning anti cheat that is completely server side than rust has while getting kernel access to your pc. its pathetic and lazy development tbh and this entire post from them reads like such extreme cope....

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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It's not even real Rust unless it's coded in the real Rust language of Rustlandia.

Otherwise it's just sparkling oxidation

[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 month ago

People who play games to cheat are the problem with the world. Born losers.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This guy is from the UK and former military. I think there must be some kind of weird haywire thing where the military experience made him irrationally upset about people who do not follow rigid rules and structure or something.

No doubt he spends most nights stalking cheater forums and dreaming about the day he finally wins his war lol

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

The garbage took itself out.

[–] CorneliusTalmadge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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There are no plans to support Proton or Linux. It's a vector for cheat developers, and one that would be poorly maintained by both us and EAC due to the low user base. When we stopped support for Linux, we saw more cheat users exploiting Linux, than actual legitimate users.

When monitoring cheats for Rust, we keep a close eye on wider cheat communities across several major games. We look at what cheat developers are doing, and how other studios are responding.

From that experience, I'm very comfortable saying that if a game supports Proton or Linux, they're not serious about anti-cheat. The only exception would be if they have a fully mature, dedicated in-house anti-cheat team, even then, I'm not seeing anyone handle Proton and Linux well.

Apex Legends also dropped Proton support in October 2024 for the same reasons as we did several years ago.

Could we limit Proton to Premium servers? yes, but I think it's total bullshit asking Proton users to buy the game and then $15 worth of DLC. I'd be pissed if I were forced to do that.

When we stopped supporting Linux, users made up less than .01% of the total player base, even if that number has doubled, or tripled, it's not worth it.

I know that every time I post something like this, some Proton and Linux users call us lazy or dismissive. The reality is that fighting cheaters on one front (Windows), is already a never-ending battle. Adding more fronts multiplies that challenge without adding meaningful benefit to the wider player base.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Rust is a shit game with a terrible community and rampant cheating.

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[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They're on that lie still?

Cool, cool. I've got plenty of games to choose from to care about lazy lying assholes who can't be bothered to come up with a better excuse than that for why they irrationally hate Linux

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Never heard of Rust, but it sounds like something I can afford to ignore.

OS shouldn't even matter to prevent cheating; do your anticheat validation server side. Anyone who knows anything about security knows the client side can never be trusted.

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ultra toxic survival game where you build a base, get raided by 4 guys with rocket launchers and bombs while yelling slurs at you. Then rinse and repeat.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago

I thought that was the trans crab programming language

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (18 children)

even most popular Minecraft servers have better functioning anti cheat that is completely server side

Why isn't this the standard everywhere? These servers prove that server side anticheat works.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Because they've been forced to implement server-side anti-cheat because they can't implement it into the game because they don't control the game and mojang don't seem interested in adding much in the way of anti-cheat to Minecraft.

These other companies actually control the games they're running the servers for, so they can go the simple route and put kernel level anti-cheat in the game, and then call it a day. Corporations will always take the easy cheap option, even if it's not very good.

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I have literally never played a game and encountered an obvious cheater and if I did, I think I'd just change servers. Is this really such a huge problem and if so, what are its consequences beyond maybe being annoyed for 5 minutes?

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some games, like Tarkov, are plagued with cheaters, but Linux plays no part in any of it.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 12 points 1 month ago

I've come across many, is it annoying? Sure. Is it the end of the world? No. You just leave the lobby/server and go in a fresh one.

No cheating is bad enough to justify a rootkit.

I've also been called a cheater a lot and they always sound very convinced even though they have no idea at all. I imagine these are the same people constantly complaining about cheating.

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[–] jrgd@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Referencing my comment in the other thread, Facepunch employees keep being disingenuous about this claim. Even if it is true, due to how unplayable Facepunch made the Linux build a short while before they axed it for "a rampant cheating problem", this claim does not have enough evidence. The linked comment goes into some more detail, but it is insane how much the developers keep doubling down on their disinformation.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This is what happens when your game is exclusively a commercial product and not a creative work. This exact logic is why accessibility features are being implemented sparsly and slowly.

If all he cares about is money, let's just not give it to him. There's thousands of better games, more worth our time and money.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I tried Rust, but quit quickly due to the extreme levels of racism and open Nazis. Maybe they should address some core issues of the game before blaming Linux for their problems?

Also, how was their playerbase only 0.01% Linux? Was their game terrible on Linux? Why did it have hundreds of time less players than other platforms

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Does the anti-cheat break the game on Linux? Not buying the game. I don't need that kind of crap in my life.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

i wonder if this guy heard about counter strike...

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 1 month ago

What a clown ahahha

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