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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 218 points 1 month ago (28 children)

I posted this in the other thread, but wanna share here too:

Most interesting thing to me is the Frame apparently runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and is using SteamOS, implying official ARM support for SteamOS, Steam and Proton! Could mean steam and proton coming to android too.

[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And the base would be Arch Linux ARM, right? So that should see an uptick in development too.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Arch Linux has been implementing a build system for other architectures. Perhaps they'll make ARM official by the time Frame comes out.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I’m still a little curious how that will work for games. Are they going to somehow emulate Win32 amd64 games? Do devs have to recompile them in some new way? Will engines support it beyond Unity and Unreal?

[–] charizardcharz@piefed.world 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It was mentioned in the LTT coverage. Aside from native ARM games they have a translation layer(FEX) to play x86 games on ARM. They'll have a "Verified" tag like the Steam Deck for compatibility. I assume you'll still be able to force trying to run unverified games.

Edit: FEX is not a Valve thing, but an existing open source x86/x86_64 emulator that Valve is using. It's not clear if they're forking it or directly contributing though.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That same video says that "Valve has heavily contributed to FEX"

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 151 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

Dang. The new Steam Controller has a D-pad, buttons, thumbsticks, gyros, and trackpads.

And the thumbsticks are TMR (like Hall effect, but nicer).

As long as it's comfortable to reach all that stuff, that's gonna be a new bar for PC game controllers.

EDIT: and grip sensors.

EDIT2: and four haptic feedback motors, two in the trackpads.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Now if it just had a replaceable battery...

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It does! Verge reports that battery pops out like old cellphone batteries

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Nice!

Edit: do you have to disassemble the controller (with a screwdriver or something) or is it accessible with just my hands? I swap (rechargeable) AAs on my XBox360 controller quite a bit, and part of why I like it is that I can do it quickly if the battery dies while playing.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Looks like you'll have to remove the entire bottom shell. From GN's video:

A disassembled Steam Controller with its bottom shell removed and its insides visible.

The shell doesn't seem to have a separately removable battery cover, although I don't see a reason why someone wouldn't be able to just cut a hole or 3D-print an accessible shell. Dbrand comes to mind. Or that's just a show piece and the retail product might have a battery cover.

It also looks like the screw posts don't have threaded metal inserts, which is concerning.

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[–] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I personally think the Deck is very comfortable given its bulk. I have a lot of faith in the controller ergonomics.

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[–] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 131 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Only one company has apparently learned how to print money and not be ghouls.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

To be fair, they say they made a lot of tradeoffs in the name of being price conscious, but they haven't put a price on it yet.

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[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Valve and therefore Steam is still privately owned, never went public. No share holders demanding things surely is a major factor.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 118 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (19 children)

Sometimes I think about how LOATHED Steam was when it launched. That was probably valid even. Still, it feels worth noting that Valve is maybe THE only company from my childhood that feels like it largely stayed true to its spirit, or whatever.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (5 children)

People who came to Steam later on probably don’t realise that when it was new it barely fucking worked.

Downloads crawled, games refused to launch because of authentication issues, friends/chat was offline for literally months, etc.

The only reason it became widely adopted was because Valve forced you to use it if you wanted to play the latest CS or, later, HL2. Everyone hated it.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What if he really wanted to make it up to you? Is there anything he could do to apologize?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

HALF. LIFE. FUCKING. THREE.

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[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I was one of the haters when it first launched because I was on dialup at the time and physical discs I bought were forcing me to install steam AND THEN install a massive patch that did not work on dialup. My first day playthrough of Skyrim was ruined because of that. Took a week for that shit to download even though I went physically to a store.

But now Steam is the last man standing between us and corporate greed.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Been waiting for a competitor to the meta quest. Looks like my patience has paid off. I hope it’s not too pricey/compromised

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Did Valve just announce THREE of something?

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A brief moment of KDE desktop shown.

2026 will be the year of Linux Desktop!

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

~~Linux Desktop!~~

Linux... facetop?

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 55 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I want them all, but mostly the Frame. Finally decent Linux VR? On a standalone device that can also stream from a PC? On ARM?! It seems too good to be true.

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[–] mintiefresh@piefed.social 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh my god, my wallet is in trouble haha

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The controller is exactly what I wanted. Take a Steam Deck, cut out the middle, glue the grips back together. Take my money.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When I look at this announcement, the hardware is very exciting, for sure. But it is Valve's dedication to Linux that really has me smiling. I don't see three hardware devices to buy. I see two big proclamations for which the hardware is the message:

  1. SteamOS on desktop! It seemed inevitable but it's still great to see.

  2. STEAM VR USING LINUX AS ITS TARGET PLATFORM?!?!?

I will grant that it's very possible I buy all three pieces of the hardware, even though I like building my own PCs. I will also grant that Valve's support for linux probably would not be what it is without the enshittification of Microsoft's ecosystem. But in this world I'm gonna go ahead and accept the imperfect good news.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 34 points 1 month ago

Finally! I've been holding out for years waiting on steam to release a new VR set, time to finally get one!

[–] vane@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Where's my Steam Phone Gabe ?

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[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've been saying for years that VR can get off my lawn until I can buy Linux native hardware. I guess I'm interested in VR, now.

"I may never financially recover from this."

is well said.

I need to buy all of these.

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NGL the cube thingy looks so damn attractive to me, especially as I don't own any form of PC gaming...

Now please Steam, officially sell to Mexico god damn it!

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 28 points 1 month ago

This is so fucking good for linux gaming

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Lets fucking go! This lineup looks sick.

[–] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Hmm this makes me wonder if the Steam Deck 2 will be ARM. If the Steam Frame works well, that could be a way for Valve to push more performance/battery life out of the deck

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[–] MuteDog@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

why is this thing not called Steam Engine?

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If Valve makes ARM Linux work properly as a gaming/desktop OS, I will uhh hmm.

I will buy this thing.

I wonder if they're still using Arch for the basis of this. Its ARM version is kinda not so great, although not terrible either.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really excited for this and hopefully that means steamvr on Linux will actually start working better! The current Beta build is much better but still lots of work to do.

I'm definitely getting the frame as upgrade from quest 3 which I rarely use due to it being attached to Meta. The controller is no brainer considering that old steamdeck controller is still one of the best controllers on the market. Not sure about steam machine mostly because I just built my own PC - would have totally waited for it if I knew it was coming but it looks so slick.

Very excited for Linux in 2026!

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As someone still using Steam Controller 1 on the daily, I am stoked to see that they have not abandoned the trackpads. Civ from the couch ftw.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

I hope the Frame is as cheap or cheaper than a Meta Quest 3. It's almost identical in the specs, but goes back to monochrome external cameras instead of full color. But also has eye tracking which the Q3 does not. I want eye tracking so fucking bad... I set up cameras for it before I was like "Hold up... They can't see my eyes with the headset on 😬" lol

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I can’t wait to get the controller

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That controller makes me swoon.

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[–] silverchase@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Hell yeah! I have an upgrade path for my original Steam Controllers!

One under the radar feature of the Frame's controllers is being able to use them without the headset as essentially a normal controller split in two.

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