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President Donald Trump on Sunday claimed that a “dividend of at least $2000 a person” will be paid to all Americans except for “high-income people,” saying the country is now wealthy as a result of his tariff policies.

“People that are against Tariffs are FOOLS! We are now the Richest, Most Respected Country In the World, With Almost No Inflation, and A Record Stock Market Price. 401k’s are Highest EVER,” the president wrote.

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[–] Leonyx@kbin.melroy.org 32 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Full of shit. Remember the so called 'DOGE Stimulis'?

This is the same deal.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

your check will arrive in 2 weeks!

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 53 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like adding more to the national debt to me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What do I care? It's all funny money anyway.

Not that Donnie Dipshit is actually going to deliver. But I'm tried of hearing about the deficit whenever "money for plebs" is on the table. Then Israel or Argentina gets $40B no questions asked. Nobody seems to bat an eye.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

You paid him more than his bullshit 2k anyway. Weren’t the earliest estimates like 3.5k annual per household? Not to mention, you can’t buy my complacency on dismantling of the economy. Fuck Trump. I’d rather eat roaches than take his stimulus.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

You can't buy my complacancy... but you can try. Maybe try again, just to be sure.

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 3 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

National debt? Isnt that like our high score?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 39 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting: I guess we're about to officially find out just who he considers "a person".

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 7 points 2 hours ago

If there are any anti-maga republicans in the future reading this, it's an excellent opportunity to run a campaign on MAGA incompetence giving out cash to illegals (obviously false but red tie voters won't know that).

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago

This still doesn't erase the fact that Donald J. Trump is a pedophile, protects pedophiles, and lied about the Epstein files.

[–] cosmicpancake@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

This reads like pure campaign theater wrapped in gaslighting. Trump promises a mysterious "$2000 dividend" while calling critics fools, then his Treasury guy says he hasn't even talked to him about it. Vague, uncosted, and probably designed to make headlines.

Remember how tariffs actually work: they are a tax on imports that businesses usually pass on to consumers, and they hit lower and middle income people harder. Where is the money really coming from, who defines "high income," and how do you square higher consumer prices with a big cash payout? It doesn't add up.

Short version, trust the details not the chest-thumping. If he actually wants to give people $2000, put a clear, audited plan on the table. Until then this is just noise.

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Doesn't matter. Anyone who understands what tarrifs are isn't his target audience, the dullards who voted for him will just see a $2000 cheque with 'DONALD J. TRUMP' on the bottom and think that they got free money for nothing from king kiddyfucker.

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

Rumours will start in deep red communities that democrat voters didn’t get one, further proving Trump is their golden god as they high five and laugh.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Wonder how long $2000 will last, paying for all those tariffed goods. Wonder who will make the money in the end...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Remember how tariffs actually work: they are a tax on imports that businesses usually pass on to consumers

The argument for tariffs basically boils down to profit margin. If you're selling a $100 good into the US that cost you $15 to produce and another $5 to ship, there's a reason to believe you're willing to eat another $15 in import taxes to collect that $80 in profit.

If a business can pass the cost on to the consumer, the issue isn't strictly with the tariffs. It's the absence of alternatives at home that can retail for under $100.

But that's just "business math for dummies". Manufactured goods can cross borders multiple times in the assembling process. And with the sloppy execution of the tarrif, it seems like a single product can be taxed with each crossing. That's a bureaucratic trainwreck for a multitude of reasons. Businesses can't absorb these costs even with enormous margins.

Where is the money really coming from, who defines “high income,” and how do you square higher consumer prices with a big cash payout?

Money comes from the Treasury. High income is a statutory definition. And you don't need to square it, because people aren't tracking the balance.

If he actually wants to give people $2000, put a clear, audited plan on the table.

He's never done that before. Why start now?

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

Maybe he meant the opposite, to be paid exclusively to millionaires

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago

Trump suggesting any sort of UBI was not on my bingo card for this year. You just know there's going to be some sort of catch.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

You can tell because his mouth is open

[–] nocturne@slrpnk.net 1 points 46 minutes ago
[–] besselj@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 hours ago

"Mission accomplished"

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

will be paid to all Americans except for “high-income people,”

The only reason anyone ever does means testing...

Is to make people who dont get something, pissed off at the rest. Too many people are uniting against the wealthy, they need to get the bottom 99% fighting again.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 7 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I like redistributing wealth, no complaints here, but as a response to Trump's claims of a wealth government I offer a reminder to everyone here that Trump decreased federal income and increased the 5 year deficit by about 7 Trillion by the lowest estimates. The US Government does not have the money to do this.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 minutes ago

Honestly at this point you have to wonder if he's trying to cause hyperinflation and is just really bad it.

He and his litany of last-mans-in-the-room are all balls deep in crypto after all.

[–] Leonyx@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 hour ago

They won't have the money period to do anything useful for a long time.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

FEEDING Starving children is SOCIALISM! Giving Every American $2000 is GOOD CAPITALISTIC POLICY!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 52 minutes ago

It’s a weak bribe.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

so the new magat plan is to try to buy the midterms using cash borrowed from our great-grandkids after they 'save' the country from the 'democrat shutdown'?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

The tariffs are just a tax on -us- in the first place, easily exceeding $2k; so this isn't some gift, it's a partial return on a tax that shouldn't exist in the first place.

Like, this is the school bully stealing your lunch money, then throwing the metal change back at you.

Orange shit stain owes us a LOT more than $2k.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Meanwhile he's preventing SNAP benefits that average less than $200 per household (not even per person). And that have already been approved and allocated by Congress, he's just preventing it from being distributed.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 hour ago

Would be great if true. Hard doubt though.

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

That's some desperate shit there....

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Now republicans love redistribution of wealth

[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

... and liars lie.