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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

But it’s their fault for being poor. - Republicans

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[–] leftist_lawyer@lemmy.today 1 points 14 hours ago

Make it trend for a month.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Also, in a famine, it is grossly unfair to put all blame on a single leader/government. In USSR's case, during global famine, the US insisted debt be paid in food, and the government had to react to extortionist farmer class (Kulak) pricing. It is entirely political to create narrative of opponents fault for everything, when they are faced with hard decisions that your country imposed on them.

In this case, it is especially eggregious to not only force starvation by executive decision in times of relative abundance, but to further provide IRS directives that would collect less (minimum corporate tax rules) from oligarchs, so that budget/revenue is further reduced, and excuse to continue starving people becomes a manufactured crisis.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I cannot find a single source about US insisting debt payments be made in food. Most of the kulaks were also imprisoned or deported in the late 1920’s during collectivization. The USSR in the early years had targeted food shortages in Ukraine and the Caucuses to starve the population into submission. There was later a union wide food shortage because Stalin increased the export of wheat without adequately increasing production.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

The wikipedia article (holomodor), unless it's been nazi washed recently, has/had all the points I made even if it's balanced to "always hate Stalin". I don't know what caused Stalin to not repay US debt (explains food exports), but that too would have led to complaints about his handling of famine. Holomodor is a Ukrainian word, and its enthusiastic eastern cooperation with nazi Germany, including administrating extermination camps, colours its history/politics to this day. Still, they had fewer famine deaths than other parts of the USSR.

Recently, famine/drought in Syria was a great opportunity for the empire and its Al Quaeda and ISIS proxies to rise up and eventually overthrow the long time leader. It is not in demonic evil scum's nature to assist people's survival through cooperation with their government, if a narrative gives them more control over the world.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Also Stalin's promotion of Trofim Lysenko and his crackpot ideas on agriculture that mirrored the crackpot ideas of Leninism. Exacerbating famines and helping to kill millions.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] Etlaris@lemdro.id 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

No no NO! It's only starvation when the russians do it.
However when the orange kiddie fiddling reality TV 'star' failed businessman convicted criminal/rapist forces it on to his people then it is called sparkling mandatory dieting.

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