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UK government? I'm surprised they've moved past XP this quickly.

[โ€“] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 15 hours ago

Funny thing is, only about 5-10 years ago, the UK government was trying to do "ALL FOSS EVERYWHERE"

But the pushback from old fogies unwilling to change was so hard that they basically did like one department (Department of Work and Pensions) before they rolled it back.

It did save that one department a lot of money though.

[โ€“] immobile7801@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago

At least 1 person is incredibly bad as their job then. Eol is announced years in advance and this should've been easily avoidable.

[โ€“] Lemming421@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago

If this project was authorised after November 2021, people should be fired for the waste of public funds.

Once Windows 11 came out, it was clear that Windows 10 had an end date and they should have just gone balls-deep and skipped 10 altogether.

[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 32 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Probably all because some twat didn't want to use libreoffice

[โ€“] kurcatovium@piefed.social 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I have both Libre Office and MS Office at my work PC and I much prefer to use Libre. Sure it's not perfect but I find it more focused on the task I need to do than MS one. Speaking particularly about Calc vs Excel, not sure about other parts.

[โ€“] GreenCrunch@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

I like libre because it doesn't pop up AI crap and suggest things like MS.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 28 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

They will start the upgrade to windows 11 in 5 years and complete it in 3, just in time for windows 12 and nothing will have been learned.

On a serious note, the lack of a major European alternative is really a big problem. What do we have? A bunch of community driven alternatives with no marketing, no business, maybe support, maybe paid development, but mostly just dedication and dreams. Government shit on dedication and dreams on the regular.

Ubuntu is British

[โ€“] turdas@suppo.fi 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Wow, never heard of them.

SUSE is the leading independent Enterprise Open Source company, founded in 1992. Pioneer in software-defined infrastructure and beyond. More than 90% of SAP HANA deployments and more than two-thirds of the Fortune Global 100 companies worldwide trust SUSE.

https://www.nordicmind.com/suse/

Never seen it used nor mentioned anywhere. Maybe they don't have a user interface and are just used on servers or infrastructure (whatever "software-defined infrastructure" means)? That would explain why governments still use Microsoft (and increasingly fruits).

[โ€“] klangcola@reddthat.com 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

SuSE is one of the two major enterprise Linux distributions, with RedHat being the other. I would assume servers make up the bulk of their business, but they provide desktops too.

RedHat is probably better known to most end-users, due to their Fedora community distribution, and their heavy involvement in Gnome.

SuSE's community distribution is openSUSE
EDIT: Fittingly, the very top of their website says "Make your old Windows 10 PC fast and secure again!" and links to https://endof10.org/

[โ€“] turdas@suppo.fi 2 points 12 hours ago

Maybe you've heard of Novell, the American company that bought SUSE in the early 2000s and then eventually sold it off. They were kind of big in the 2000s.

After many more mergers and acquisitions SUSE is (for now) back under European ownership.

[โ€“] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Its also a linux OS for business, theres an open variant for home pc use aswell: https://www.opensuse.org/

[โ€“] cRazi_man@europe.pub 5 points 19 hours ago

Tumbleweed was such a great choice for me when getting started with Linux. The enterprise support has benefits, I found specific rpm packages for problems I was having with a printer and a remote desktop client. And Yast is great to have for a Linux noob.

[โ€“] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago

Mostly they use it due to vendor lock-in tbh

Microsoft and Apple both use a sly tactic of offering the OS for cheap, and some products for cheap, but with the express intention that everything is so interlinking you can't replace just one thing, you have to replace it all.

Which is too much time and effort for most governments

[โ€“] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 15 hours ago

You would have heard of them a lot if you were a computer nerd. You must just be one of the common folk.

[โ€“] FarceOfWill 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Saving you a click, its defra.

Im surprised theyre not on windows 8 still

[โ€“] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 15 hours ago

There's probably odd boxes here and there still running Windows 98.

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.social 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Labour loves kissing those Microsoft boots!

[โ€“] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I agree it was disappointing to see Starmer agreeing to work with Microsoft to build AI datacentres in the UK.

But most, if not all, governments and major businesses worldwide have been kissing Microsoft's boots for the better part of 40 years. As much as I want them out of the picture completely, turning back decades of brainwashing through Windows focused IT education is a battle that will take a long time if it has a chance at all.

[โ€“] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 35 points 22 hours ago

๐Ÿ™„ This has been an issue for much longer than the current labour government has been in power.

[โ€“] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 12 points 21 hours ago

Well if anything itโ€™ll be easier to install a proper OS over it afterwards instead of having to wrestle W11โ€™s greedy clutches.

[โ€“] kubofhromoslav@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Well, UK is half way to US... On the continent we are more aware and supportive for sovereign free / open source / FLOSS software.

[โ€“] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We won't be free from Microsoft's clutches in the UK until they shutdown sadly.

[โ€“] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Either one is equally likely at this stage

[โ€“] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, Balkanisation is more likely

[โ€“] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

Both possible tbh

[โ€“] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Techradar's article has a different tone than it's source The Register which implies that money's starting from 2022.

It doesn't say that they're staying on Win10 either, but they are behind schedule to move on...

[โ€“] miked@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The original linked article was lacking info.

[โ€“] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -4 points 16 hours ago

Operating systems are more like toys now than anything serious, why would any organization with a rigidly defined set of operations need anything more than some custom coded programs in C?