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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/48495641

Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can't trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.

A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please... and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money... these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.

Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people... but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.

But, alas... It's Musk saying it so it's only to further enrich himself and won't actually happen.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

Il wait until he follows through on even one of his grandiose promises.

[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He's in such a hurry to create The Culture that he doesn't even realize it's a -left- wing utopia.

[–] cooper8@kbin.earth 3 points 15 hours ago

He's an accelerationist to the core, which is in some senses a "beyond left and right" political position, but which demands lib-right short term politics to take the guard-rails off of the "accelerationist project". That said, his "peers" are dark enlightenment totalitarians who want nothing more than to bend the accelerationist project towards permanent technofeudalism and he doesn't seem much inclined to oppose them, and so is a de-facto collaborator. He may genuinely believe that Superintelligence will be inherently and inevitably benevolent because that is the "logical" position, and so getting there as fast as possible will diffuse the monarchist machinations of the rest, but it's hard to believe he is naive to the strong potential of alternative outcomes more like Brave New World than The Culture. Being de facto far right is about as bad as being fervently far right for the masses of the present moment.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 21 points 1 day ago

Dearest Luigi, I don’t have the strength to do what is necessary. Grant me the power to do what needs to be done.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Optimus will finally make it possible for us (the 1%) to eliminate poverty for 2 reasons: First because we don't need the poor anymore for manual labor, and second because with Optimus we can automate their extermination.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the only way the 1% could eliminate poverty. If it were at all possible.

Well no they could just be charitable and fix poverty with their massive wealth they just don't wanna

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, it will definitely not be the 1% that eliminate poverty, but when a majority decides to do so.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They won't necessarily kill or exterminate us. They'll just let us die.

[–] gary@piefed.world 6 points 1 day ago

Right!? he was literally referring to this as an "enormous robot army" a couple weeks ago.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

No, the value of the top 1% would go down of nobody is left to buy their products, services, software, finance their tax breaks or produce all the goods they need.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bruh still hasn't delivered on self driving.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Next year! Just you wait and see!!

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finally! That's great news! Can't believe we're only 1 year away after all these other 1 years.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooh you poor summer child... 😂

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Might wanna read that again lol

I was being very sarcastic

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I was too :p

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Elon wants to eliminate poverty but thinks poverty are the poor. He wants to get rid of the poor and his robot army is going to remove everyone who he has made poor.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A(ctual) I(ndians) at it again...

They just want to dehumanize labour, and not in the way you'd think.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's still crazy to me Elmo dressed up humans in robot costumes to try and trick in estors into thinking they were ai waiters...

And Bezos tried to sell companies "workless shops" services run by AI, by having whole foods use Indians watching cameras to pretend AI was something to invest in...

And there just wasn't any lawsuits.

How the fuck isn't it fraud?

The big money that's already in are just trying to trick people into joining so they can rugpull.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Like every good grift: ounce of truth, pound of bullshit

[–] pmtriste@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

One of you is using the monkey's paw again, aren't you?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And then Optimus will come around to your house, and it will give everyone free ice cream. Whatever flavor you like! Then Optimus will save all the sick animals and make them better, and fix the ozone layer, and stop crime. Optimus is going to cure cancer, and eliminate traffic jams, and make me the most popular man in the world. A true communist utopia.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

All this progress from a person who can't even ensure his self-driving vehicles don't hit emergency vehicles.

The product isn't Optimus, the product is bullshit and investors love it.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It will even fuck your wives and implant a seed directly from Musk's personal Tesla sperm dispenser.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 13 points 1 day ago

What, like the Tories did? /s

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In 17 years time... ooooh, eliminate the POOR!! yeah, that makes more sense

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's going to kill them, isn't it?

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And grind them up to make Soylent Green.

[–] crandlecan@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Mmmm. Soylent Green 🤤

The cost of such a luxury will never approach zero

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

By "eliminate poverty" he means killing all the poor people with his robot army.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

The best thing he could do for the world would be to take up a fentanyl hobby.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Will he use his new trillion dollars for betterment of humankind?

[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

With his money, he could eliminate poverty right now. Why wait?

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago

I will gladly be "eliminated" then be a slave for this bastard and his 1% friends.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No he won't.