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A federal judge ruled Friday that the Department of Education violated the First Amendment rights of some agency employees when it sent out-of-office messages on their behalf that blamed Democrats for the government shutdown.

The ruling from US District Judge Christopher Cooper is the latest court rebuke of controversial moves by the Trump administration during what has now become the longest shutdown in US history.

Cooper, an appointee of former President Barack Obama, said the department had unconstitutionally compelled its employees' speech when it tinkered with the out-of-office messages for furloughed workers so that they included language blaming the shutdown on "Democrat Senators" who "are blocking" passage of a "clean continuing resolution" that would fund the government.

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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At this point I believe that USA reds are so focused on remaining in power, because to do the shit they've done they basically all became criminals and the moment they lose power is the moment they'll have to face consequences.

And, simply wanting power aside, they're scared shitless of that.

But it paints a really grim picture for USA, because the most dangerous animal is the cornered one - as soon as they'll start actually losing, they will drag ya all to hell :/

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Once you're flying, the idea of crashing becomes much scarier

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

So the person who did it and the person who ordered it will now be charged with hundreds of counts of violating civil rights? Right?

Right?

[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 122 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also yet another violation of the Hatch Act. This makes the.. let's see... 7 billionth time Republicans have violated this law? Or is it up to 8 billion violations?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Lol...

The only way the Hatch Act is actually used, is to make government employees not be able to assume office if they win an election.

No one gets fired or written up for saying something political, even when on the clock.

It's just to divide the actual federal workers from the puppets the oligarchs bought off.

If someone with experience working in the government wants to run for office, they need to quit their job before they enter any races. Which is a huge hurdle, although with the DRP, furlough, and other bullshit. A lot of people with experience actually working in the government are gonna start running for office.

Because now they're no longer government employees and thats all that was holding them back

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m old enough to remember when forging government documents resulted in impeachment.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember when impeachment meant something? Because it doesnt anymore. Good old flying pieces of metal still work though. Just ask Charlie.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Charlie's wife didn't even wait for the body to cool before she was on that next grift. Are we sure she didn't put a hit out on him?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when has impeachment meant anything? literally just one time it actually lead to someone being held accountable...

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. Just the threat of it. For far, far less than Trump has done.

I am no fan of the Clintons but when the Republicans turned impeachment into a political toy in the 90s it lost a lot of weight. And then by the time of Trump it was easy to dispell as a 'witch hunt' to his base.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

it was started by gingrich, whom all started the "not to work with the otherside until they agree with republican demands)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

it was also pre-reagan era

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do Republicans square that hole of OBVIOUSLY being on the wrong side of history when your are literally falsifying documents to make your point.

They should all find the nearest cactus and go fuck themselves

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Because they don't care about morals or the country, they care about winning. If being a fraud is the shortest path to power they'll be frauds. If being a fascist is the shortest path to power they'll be fascists.

They can't be on the wrong side of history when history is written by the winners and they already want to win at any cost.

[–] JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 day ago

Oh no, if this administration isn't careful they're going to get another sternly worded email.

[–] theoneandonlyeggboi@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am getting very sick of this administration.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

It's been horrible since day 1. It's like they are just seeing how much people will let them get away with. And it's a lot.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Now? Getting? This shitshow spewed diarrhea to the ceilings like a high pressure hose down a sewer pipe from November on.

[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NATO: no action, talk only.

[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This funny. Thank you I never hear this!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

It's not just DOE, a bunch of agencieS were forced to use "out of office" autoreplies blaming Dems, even if that employee was still having to work without pay.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I'm super excited to watch as they are subjected to the pain of zero consequences for this.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

this is damn good to hear. that was massive bullshit.

[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

So fucking do something about it. Pointing out the constant illegality without doing anything about it is tantamount to permission.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find it disheartening that CNN, formerly educated journalists, now no longer understand why 'email' doesn't get pluralized.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

News organizations have in-house usage rules for words, especially modern words that have evolving usage.

Email as a mass noun plural is correct usage, as in "this server handles a massive amount of email every day". Emails can also be contextually correct as a plural, eg "I received hundreds of emails today".

As the number of email edited by the department and sent out is being treated as a countable noun, this headline is definitely acceptable usage.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government employees have freedom of speech in official communication? Like yeah it's messed up, but I've always heard that you're not allowed to make political statements at all. Kind of weird that this is the basis for their argument, and not whatever law it is that prohibits political statements.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

True, but in this situation the government is making a statement as them on their behalf against their will. It's different than telling them not to say something.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

I'm reminded of Hans Blix in Team America.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Either fucking do something about it or shut the fuck up about it. I’m sick and fucking tired of reading how he gets away with this bullshit day after day after day.

Put him in a cell or in the ground or just leave it be and stop telling us.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They did what now 0.0