I can't think of a more NYT thing to publish. They're practically a tabloid now.
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I'm British so in my head they're still classy. Where did it go wrong?
imo a lot of their reporting is the best of the mainstream. lemmy users absolutely shit on the paper and they generally make valid points, but there's a fair bit of "burn them at the stake" carry on. their op-eds tend to be "diverse", meaning they have total pieces of shit spouting nonsense week by week.
This is an op-ed piece, and NYT op-eds have always been godawful. I don't know why we care about it now, or why we're only just now using it to criticize the NYTs journalism (which has more than enough to criticize all on it's own) but that's where this has come from.
Edit: Not entirely relevant to the first point, but I just went and gave it a listen and... The above piece is fucking embarassing. Really. That they've had to change the title three times would seem to indicate they agree. It's the moderator (an absolute dickhead) and some conservative weirdo refusing to answer a very reasonable and simple question with just utter nonsense. Hopefully the justified backlash to this continues, and they eventually clue in and just take it down. Fucking joke.
You're a hero listening to that I'd end up chucking my phone across the room. It's funny NYT always seemed to have a good reputation shame it's not deserved
Their journalistic reputation is quite deserved - despite many valid criticisms, they do still do incredibly good and important journalism. Their opinion pieces ride the coattails of that work to make them seem like they have any value. I honestly do not think I have ever seen a NYT opinion piece that's not just absolute garbage.
The idea was to provide a counterpoint to the liberal 'bias' inherent to reporting all news - but that idea has long since stopped being reasonable, and it really needs to be just given up on.
When they were founded because the other big NY paper's European correspondent¹ was not fascist enough.
They have been on the wrong side of history, like, every fucking time.
¹Karl something?
Change your thinking immediately. Every single major news outlet in the US is pushing a corporation's agenda. I promise. Theyre all owned by billionaires.
Even publicly funded news in the US helped usher in our current state of fascism by softballing it constantly to Americas lowest common denominator.
There are exceptions which are not owned by billionaires, like the AP, NPR, and PBS.
However segments and whole shows on those channels are also often influenced heavily from outside donors. Unfortunately they still take corporate sponsorship. Listening to the shit NPR will spout about the current Palestinian genocide makes me fucking livid. And I used to be a sponsor.
Democracy Now! is solid too
Which one of them opposed a single military action by the US as it was occurring?
You don't get a platform if you're not the type to hear "America just invaded/bombed " and the first thing to come to mind is "Were any American soldiers hurt".
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What the fuck is a feminine vice?
Maybe another name for one of those vibrators with both clit and gspot stimulation?
lol, that would be pretty good!
Yeah, but they do seem pretty inappropriate for most work places. I get not wanting them all over every office.
Like, imagine your boss is trying to explain something to you while she uses one, or the new co-worker you kinda think is cute is using one while they ask you for help with a 'how is this done here' type thing.
Well fair, I suppose. No vices in the office then.
I guess even the nyt can occasionally be reasonable on accident.
Sadly looking upon for on the content of the… podcast apparently? It’s more like expecting equal pay and thinking sexual harassment should be prosecuted, not a novel new toy that women are using to pleasure themselves. :(
Yeah i guess not wanting to be raped at the place I go to not die of exposure is one of my more prominent vices.
Didn't know that was specifically a femme thing. I know most guys I've met also dont like to be raped, like, generally?
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Next headline: “Are ‘Lady Problems’ Ruining the Workplace? Tampons are Icky”
Miami Vice spinoff
I used to like the wirecutter. I liked it a lot for the first several years.. then it became a template for all KINDS of garbage advertising and bad recommendations. I bet it was when the nyt bought it.
Classic NYT
I saw another one called "Did Liberal Feminism Ruin the Workplace?"
Gotta shoe it in there that only liberal feminists are bad, not conservative tradwife feminists.
I think it's the same article, they just keep renaming it in hopes that people won't immediately realize how shitty it is
Could be the same, also looks like part of a series on the subject. Either way, I found the content as confusing and stupid as the headlines, and I feel slightly more radicalized.
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Can't help but dig that hole deeper, can they
But what's the context though? What is the article saying exactly?
The article is based on a discussion between two conservative writers discussing the role of feminism in the workplace (moderated by Ross Douthat, a conservative opinion editor at NYT). I think this is the transcript: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/06/opinion/women-workplace-feminism-conservative.html.
The moderator (Ross Douthat) also has a podcast, where this is included as an episode. I tried listening to it but stopped after a few minutes. The podcast itself is quite bad IMO, most of it being the conservative host interviewing other conservatives about conservatism. Amazing. Although I will say that I have heard one episode that was worthwhile, which was an interview with Peter Thiel, in which he (Thiel) went batshit insane.
Anything that spreads desinformation can't really be called news.
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Huh, right, will edit my comment, thanks!
Chocolate, fashion, and an attraction to buff young dudes have taken over the work place... And Jordan Peterson would like to complain.