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[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't think of a more NYT thing to publish. They're practically a tabloid now.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I'm British so in my head they're still classy. Where did it go wrong?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is an op-ed piece, and NYT op-eds have always been godawful. I don't know why we care about it now, or why we're only just now using it to criticize the NYTs journalism (which has more than enough to criticize all on it's own) but that's where this has come from.

Edit: Not entirely relevant to the first point, but I just went and gave it a listen and... The above piece is fucking embarassing. Really. That they've had to change the title three times would seem to indicate they agree. It's the moderator (an absolute dickhead) and some conservative weirdo refusing to answer a very reasonable and simple question with just utter nonsense. Hopefully the justified backlash to this continues, and they eventually clue in and just take it down. Fucking joke.

[–] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're a hero listening to that I'd end up chucking my phone across the room. It's funny NYT always seemed to have a good reputation shame it's not deserved

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Their journalistic reputation is quite deserved - despite many valid criticisms, they do still do incredibly good and important journalism. Their opinion pieces ride the coattails of that work to make them seem like they have any value. I honestly do not think I have ever seen a NYT opinion piece that's not just absolute garbage.

The idea was to provide a counterpoint to the liberal 'bias' inherent to reporting all news - but that idea has long since stopped being reasonable, and it really needs to be just given up on.

[–] sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org 14 points 1 month ago

imo a lot of their reporting is the best of the mainstream. lemmy users absolutely shit on the paper and they generally make valid points, but there's a fair bit of "burn them at the stake" carry on. their op-eds tend to be "diverse", meaning they have total pieces of shit spouting nonsense week by week.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Change your thinking immediately. Every single major news outlet in the US is pushing a corporation's agenda. I promise. Theyre all owned by billionaires.

Even publicly funded news in the US helped usher in our current state of fascism by softballing it constantly to Americas lowest common denominator.

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There are exceptions which are not owned by billionaires, like the AP, NPR, and PBS.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Democracy Now! is solid too

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

They're centrist to a fault and have a tendency to agree with the "official narrative" until it becomes unpopular. They're so afraid of being seen as partisan any side can sway them by accusing them of being on the other side enough

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

British? Interesting...

Ngl in my (previous, now) headcannon, you're like a cyberhippie lady that lives on a farm with a bunch of butterfly lawn ornaments, host your own email server, and carry a shotgun with a big sun hat and a smile. Don't ask me how my brain got there, I couldn't tell you even if I tried.

That's far more interesting than my life, so I'm going to say... yes, that is completely, totally accurate

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When they were founded because the other big NY paper's European correspondent¹ was not fascist enough.

They have been on the wrong side of history, like, every fucking time.

¹Karl something?

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So I'm the morbidly curious type and started to read this trash...

Let’s pick one flavor of wokeness, and that is the #MeToo movement.

You hear that language of personal choice, not only on the left with regard to abortion, but for conservatives in opposition to things like SNAP benefits for unmarried women: Well, you chose to have this baby while you were poor

Gross, cruel, regressive.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ESPECIALLY when there are a lot of places where it is explicitly not a choice anymore.

No but see it was her¹ choice to be raped and live somewhere where abortion isn't legal.

If it was not her choice; she is a frigid bitch and probably a liar.

¹trans men and nb's do not exist in this setting.

Totally skipping over widows and unmarried women without children. It's so wrong its not even worth picking apart.

Fuck these Zionist rape fetishists.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ladies, is it woke to not get raped?

No no NO, it's not walk at all. It's oppressive to accuse men of sexual harassment... you must be getting confused.

[–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here's more of the saga of their changing headline:

And a response by Pizza Cake comics lol:

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's fucking brilliant! Best I've seen is not nearly as good...

[–] Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nah that's brilliant too and I 100% support it.

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[–] RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Can conservative feminism fix it?

Bahahahahahaha... AWESOME!

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Has the concept of women gone too far?

Yes, we must all (de)trans and man up by the end of the week

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Women ruined my ~~boys' club~~ workplace, wahh. Why can't they stick to the jobs we don't respect and have a lower salary?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Does anyone actually respect newspaper journalists in 2025?

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I do, but I'm a nerd about looking into biases/funding/fact checking/etc. There's as much good stuff as shit and nothing should ever be taken as the god's honest, but there are people who try real damn hard to get the facts and I respect them for it.

I made a whole com just to post from independent media sources I like.

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[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What the fuck is a feminine vice?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Maybe another name for one of those vibrators with both clit and gspot stimulation?

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Next headline: “Are ‘Lady Problems’ Ruining the Workplace? Tampons are Icky

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ewwwwww periods? Ladies, leave the vagina at home!

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I'll be honest, if i could detach mine ii'd hurl it at people

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hahahah someone found out the hard way that real life isn't their incel reddit echo chamber and got in trouble

And i guarantee you they see themselves as a victim cos they were pulled up about it

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

MaLe LoNLieNeSS EpIDeMIC ….tragic. …in other news EveRYThinG WOmaN FaULT.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago

Classic NYT

[–] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I saw another one called "Did Liberal Feminism Ruin the Workplace?"

Gotta shoe it in there that only liberal feminists are bad, not conservative tradwife feminists.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think it's the same article, they just keep renaming it in hopes that people won't immediately realize how shitty it is

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This guy is clearly an asshole. I work with great women and fucking shitty women. They're individuals. Never have I looked at the DNB pulling six figures and producing literally nothing while delegating 95% of their shit and thought "all women" nor have I looked at the superstar who always delivers and thought "all women".

People are an intersection of multiple spectra, and not a single person could ever define one of their subcategories.

That's why I hate political correctness. Letting people express their nonsensical shitty opinions openly tells you a lot about them.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

*WOMENSSTUFF IS A TRANS+ INCLUSIVE WOMEN ONLY COMMUNITY

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Average Liberal as soon as the economy starts getting worse

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Haha remember no politics

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Men shouldn't be allowed to work outside the home. They are aggressive, territorial, and utterly unsuited for any job that requires interacting with other human beings. They should be kept at home taking care of children. At least when raising their own offspring, their chimp brains produce some incentive to take care of their own progeny. But interacting with random people? Men are just far too emotional and irrational to be placed in any position of trust and confidence. And don't even get me started on the foolish individualism. Work is about working together as a team, but men only care about personal fame and glory. For them it's all about beating their chests and dicks. When I need to hire someone to get work done, I want someone that will be a productive member of the team, not someone that is more concerned about swinging his dick around and peacocking about what a stud he is.

Men simply have no role in any workplace. They're the illogical sex and best kept at home. What few men who are employed outside the home should be kept in roles where they are outnumbered by women at least ten to one. If too many men gather in one space, their aggressive instincts take over and they start randomly fist fighting and throwing their own feces at one another.

We need to purge workplaces of the masculine vices that have infected them. Work isn't about personal vainglorious pride. It's about actually getting shit done. And men just aren't up for this. Men should largely work from home, kept locked away from large groups of others so they don't get in random fights. They're just to aggressive to be let out in public alone.

And the idea of a male leader? Utterly laughable. You want a man to be president? You want a man to hold the nuclear button? Elect a man to office and he'll launch a nuke towards Moscow just to try and show he has a bigger dick than Putin.

/s

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[–] anythingdull 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anyone can write an op-ed. Those aren’t the same as articles written by NYT journalists. Putin had an op-ed published by them in 2013

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone can write one, sure, it doesn't mean it's going to automatically be published. Editors still exist.

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[–] breakfastburrito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well this one is an interview hosted by Ross Douthat, one of the nyt opinion writers. I haven’t listened but I’m gonna guess the two people he’s interviewing are more to the right of him, based on the title. He’s quite annoying himself, though

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New theory: the nyt is an op trying to discredit the concept of journalism.

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