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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago

Every day that goes by I better understand what Ted Kaczynski saw.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Wow, they really are just gonna make you kill them eh, for like, no good reason.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

His head on a pike would be preferrable to both.

[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 7 points 22 hours ago

Legalise it plz.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Breaking News.

Man with vested interest in selling his services, insists buying his services is the only way to save us from the evil foreign menace

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you read his book The Technological Republic, he calls for a « collectivist » ideology and the merger of corporation and state. A few historical examples to choose from would be Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Communist China to get an idea of his vision for America’s future.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

...the 1984 Macintosh commercial...

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What? The man who rivals the spying ability of many nations isnt totally on the up and up? Whuda thunkit!

Ahh yes. The only 2 options

[–] bravesirrbn@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

What an absolute cunt

[–] percent 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would a surveillance state even prevent that?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If you beat them at it, they can't do it themselves! Duh! Oh, wait.

Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell's 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 19 hours ago

"now if you just sign here to buy our Stasi-Bot..."

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Look at this unfuckable loser. He's like if someone glued Steve Bannon's pubes to Steven Miller's head. "Let us destroy all freedom in the USA so China doesn't win the race to economically out-compete the USA" is as bullshit a justification as there has ever been for anything in the history of everything.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Let me second that... Oh hell, no

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (3 children)

China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.

The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Not that. Because their IP and copyright and patent laws are softer, and also more bendable. In practice those laws don't matter much.

Now "AI", surveillance and such are ways to bypass those stricter laws on IP in the west. Technologies exist in some socioeconomic context. A big company doing surveillance and "AI" breaking those laws doesn't expose that it breaks those laws often, and when it does, it can sustain pressure to get its way.

So the appeal of these technologies is to launder data. Which is, fundamentally, same as perfect obfuscation of executable code. And other such things.

That's money against right, money wants no reverse engineering, no alternative compatible software, no examination of what their stuff does, and no responsibility for the data used. While in right, of course, examination and compatible tools being possible and verifiable supply chain and so on are basic for industrial civilization.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.

I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

It's not Tankie to admit aspects of reality. China is doing some things well. China has spent the last 20 years investing in itself, America has spent the last 20 years investing in other countries for a possible ROI for the military-industrial complex.

What would be Tankie would be to then extrapolate from that and say they're actually the best state in the world and anyone who says otherwise is a imperialist brainwashed pigdog.

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Both CCP and US Republicans are evil, but republicans are also stupid.

Evil would obviously win against Evil+Stupid

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to ~~China Winning the AI Race~~ Planatir shareholders not getting rich fast enough

Fixed it

[–] FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 148 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Owner of surveillance apparatus reckons we should all just chill and accept total surveillance"

This fucking dude.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 30 points 1 day ago

Like seriously, in what reality are these two things NOT mutually exclusive? Also doesn't palantir have contracts with China?

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 72 points 1 day ago (24 children)

"A surveillance state is needed to beat china who is evil because it's a surveillance state"

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[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.

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[–] fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 217 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 23 points 1 day ago

I bet you'd be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you've never seen this guy giving a talk, it's worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can't sit still, and has insane thoughts he's just willing to say in public.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 136 points 2 days ago

I'd rather be a free and open society than win any kind of industrial race.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Fuckin lunatics with money, power and agenda.

[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is Bubble-101. Before the thing exists, imagine the future...

threatening that another country will get there first combined with pure players like Nvidia, the uncertainty of whether or not it could be a good investment and being able to convince governments and investors to pump money into it.

If AGI ever becomes what they are promising, everything after 2022 should be a case study for marketing and communications students because they are doing a piss-poor job inspiring confidence and just sound like grifters.

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[–] aliser@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

a surveillance megacorp says surveillance is good and needed. cartoonish evil.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can somebody please hack this guys socials and leak all his private info so we see him eat his words?

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 88 points 2 days ago (6 children)
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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

us winning the ai race. china winning the ai race. who gives a shit i still wont care about ai.

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Punchable face.

Also, Butlerian Jihad When?

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Alex Karp thinks people only care about one kind of surveillance. And he thinks he will alleviate our fears if he gives us a pinky promise not to surveil us in that one way.

That way is cheating.

He later brings this up again, saying that most surveillance technology isn’t determining, “Am I shagging too many people on the side and lying to my partner?” Your guess is as good as any as to what that’s all about.

Well, thanks for clearing that up, Alex. That was indeed my sole concern.

(The rest of the article is full of indecipherable quotes from Alex, which demonstrates you don't need to be smart to be rich.)

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