Ah America. Where a six year old can access firearms but not a lunch program.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
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Are you gonna tell a kid with a gun you aren't going to give him lunch?
That's our school lunch program. Here is a gun, go kill something and eat it.
Gun companies need to be able to sell their products to anyone without any liability for arming crazy people.
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Man, that's fucked up
What idiot downvotes this?
And all gun violence is OK as long as there is a payout to someone.
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The student's mother was sentenced to nearly four years in prison for child neglect and federal weapons charges.
You are responsible for your child. Until they are 18, they are an extension of you. You programmed them. No excuses.
This doesn't jive with my life experience at all. If my family could have "programmed" me, I would have turned out very differently. Also all my siblings are wildly different people.
The development of living beings is a messy process and there are significant uncontrollable elements.
Is leaving your gun lying around where a 6 year old can acquire and use it to shoot someone one of those sinifificant uncontrollable elements?
No, because the existence of some uncontrollable elements doesn’t erase all the controllable elements.
This woman did something very wrong and controllable, which is why she’s in prison.
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Sure but neglected child is always going to turn out worse than one that was properly loved and taken care of. You can't just go oh well child psychology is complicated, so let's just ignore the parents responsibilities.
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I sense that "child neglect" and "federal weapons" chargess mean there was at least one gun fast and loose and loaded in the house. That sounds like a powder keg waiting to explode in any case.
Yeah; a 6 year old will play with anything they get their hands on, you sure as hell don't leave a gun where they can get it. Especially with ammunition available...
The Wikipedia article about this case suggests the kid knew what the gun was. He threatened to shoot another student, and probably shot the teacher intentionally. This isn't just a case of a kid randomly playing with a gun.
Of course he's not criminally responsible for that because he's six, but he probably needs an intensive intervention to make sure he doesn't turn into a monster.
Yeah, those parents def fucked them up bad..
I suspect that's what the gun charges are for. Proper gun etiquette is not to keep the damn thing loaded.
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If it was her gun (which it was), yeah this makes sense. If the gun was instead found in a trash can or something? idk its a wild world.
If the gun was instead found in a trash can or something?
That's what a jurry would consider after both sides have made their case.
I guess this is my sign to start dumpster diving
If one is to reach for the most unlikely thing to happen to base their opinion on, then I suppose that you have a point.
I know a kid who as a teenager beat his mom with his fists, the problem with the "parents are always in control of their kids" idea is its a fantasy. At some point you will end up blaming a victim.
Reasonable precautions should always be made: gun safes, therapy, etc. Kids frequently are smarter or dumber or nicer or meaner than their parents and its always gonna be that way.
I don’t remember anyone saying that parents are always in control of their children? If I am driving a car and I let go of the wheel… It is going to crash.
Please, take some time to come up with another bullshit excuse to justify your feelings
If you want to be pedantic, I suppose “got the gun from another kid” is more reasonable?
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It also outlined how one instance in which Ms Zwerner allegedly told Ms Parker that the child was in a "violent mood" and had made threats against another child.
Ms Parker allegedly "had no response" and refused to "even look up" when concerns about the child were brought to her.
Ms Parker's lawyer argued that she could not have known what would happen, and that Ms Zwerner has exaggerated the extent of her injuries.
Could not have known? Despite being told the child was making threats to other students?
And exaggerated the extent of her injuries? She was fucking shot by a 6 yo. What’s to exaggerate?
That's not even close to the worst part. After Zwerner reported his "violent mood," two other teachers reported to Parker that students were telling them he had a gun... The first searched his backpack and turned up nothing but believed it could have been on his person (they saw him tuck something under his sweatshirt.) Parker's response was that his pockets were too small to hold a gun. Second teacher had another student report he had flashed them the gun in his pocket. Second teacher wanted to search him, but Parker forbade him because the first teacher had already searched his backpack.
That's pretty fucking bad...
Good on her. I hope she puts that money to good use. Teachers usually have a good head on their shoulders, from my experience.
Depends on the school. Some teachers shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children
Mine were amazing across the board throughout K-12. That's why I said in my experience.
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