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[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Well yeah. Sam Altman just came out and basically said he needs a few trillion dollars and government backed loans. This shit is going to be BAD.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yay, yet another once in a lifetime financial crisis.

Capitalism is the only way ;)

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is in a category I'd like to call hopebait. People so badly wish things they feel are bad simply stopped themselves, that they'll upvote anything that appears to confirm this.

In this instance, there is nothing of substance in this article to suggest the end of anything is anywhere near in sight.

One guy, who makes bets constantly, made another bet.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Seriously the stock market can remain irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

People are idiots.

Is there a consensus there's an AI bubble? Sure?

Can anyone predict what will happen? LOfuckingL

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Has anyone else noticed the recent resurgence of mechanical turk jobs? It's all AI training work. Before the work was doing tasks directly. Now they have people training tailored AI models.

In other words the tech bros have found get another way to shoehorn themselves in as a middle man. Instead of having workers do the work itself. Now the work is delegated to AI. Which is trained to do the task by humans.

At first it said the LLM era was the end of mechanical turk work. It's going in a circle back to mechanical turks again.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I just phoned a business today that ended up with an "AI receptionist" when they didn't answer the phone.

They wanted to take my name down, asked who I was leaving a message for, and then recorded the message...

My god what a painful process that was. It was absolutely useless. Firstly it got my name wrong, and then the name of the person I was leaving the message for wrong. No "Janet" my name is not Don it's John, and no I'm not leaving a message for Kim Its for Kam. And then it needs to repeat your entire message back to you in order to make sure it didn't fuck it up which amazingly the message was probably 95% okay but it was a giant waste of my time when a FUCKIN VOICEMAIL WOULD HAVE SUFFICED

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Had an issue with Comcast today. They forced me to use their Xfinity app, but what I needed to do wasn't an apparent option within the app. The only option I saw was a support chatbot. The chatbot listed a link to the option I was looking for. The link opened a webview within the Xfinity app, in which there was a link to download the Xfinity app.

Unnecessary Apps and chat bots. Two of my least favorite things referring me back and forth, forever, in an endless loop.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

comcast is probably the worst cs, plus they always trying to pedal you shit.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

an online store, for games used a fully AI agent as a CS, it was giving them the run around, till i kept asking about escalting it, finally it was able to either contact them shortly or through email.

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[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've got a problem with articles like this: "The guy who got it right once is betting a second time he's going to get it right". and then the article continues: "Even though he's got it wrong a bunch of times since, he got it right that one time... So this has gotta be his second time!!"

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The odds of being right x times in a row must be really low, correct?

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There's an AI bubble?

I was pretty certain it was grifts all the way down lol

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is the most accurate take I have yet seen.

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[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 200 points 3 days ago (21 children)

If I had to make a guess, I say it probably will. The convenience of AI is probably here to stay, but the craze of replacing everything with AI will go out the door.

AI will become exactly what it should have been in the first place: an assistant. Not your friend, not your doctor, not your therapist, not a replacement for artists/authors/programmers, and not inside every piece of tech post 2025. It has a place. That place is over-embellished right now, not to mention unsustainable.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (8 children)

It will definitely burst, and might take out some fairly large companies with it. Potentially even one or two tech companies that have been around for decades depending on how large it gets before that burst. One or two companies will end up with the IP all of them are "building" and it will fizzle into the background of daily use just like the previous assistants like Alexa, Cortana, etc. have.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Potentially even one or two tech companies that have been around for decades depending on how large it gets before that burst.

Please be Microsoft, please be Microsoft, please be Microsoft.

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[–] kljafgg9r0@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What does his height have to do with anything? Are we body shaming?

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Now I most definitely don't want it to pop 🤣 moreso because the reality is the bubble popping doesn't hurt them it only hurts all the idiots who spent their meager earnings on this shit.

The rich never suffer, other than having to buy the smaller yacht.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If he needs a straight pin to pop it I can send him a couple

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My money is on the American bubble popping. China would do just fine. As to Europe's? Probably not developed enough to seriously impact them, but probably able to fill America's void once the bubble action has died down. America is pretty fucked in general, so it isn't so much AI in particular, but rather a ghost economy.

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn't bode well.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Most of the European digital infrastructure is caught in the web of Microsoft, and will be pulled down with it when Microsoft inevitably lose their bets on AI.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pulled down how? They will just keep using office or azure or whatever. No changes.

Seems to me that the Microsoft stock may drop 20% but otherwise, what consequences will it really have on European markets?

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Something based on imaginary stocks, grift, de-industrialization, ghost jobs and falsified labor statistics, likely mixed with a debased dollar, just doesn’t bode well.

This is literally describes China, what are you even talking about?

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

Some guy spending a billion dollars on pretty much nothing makes me deeply annoyed. Tax billionaires.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 56 points 3 days ago (11 children)

The fact that he was even able to make that bet is incredible. How deluded do you have to be to think the AI bubble won't burst? Keeping it going will require in ever-increasing amounts of money to paper over the gaping chasms that keep cropping up, and eventually the amount of money necessary to keep it going will cease to be feasible. Then, after taking gullible investor for all of they've got, the whole thing will fall over in the world's most well deserved and predictable market crash.

The subprime mortgage collapse was inevitable only in hindsight, you had to have a good understanding of the market to see it in advance. To see the level of corruption and false promises that have to be made in order to make the mortgage bubble possible. But everyone can see the AI BS right out in the open, I'm not talking about the "how many Rs are in strawberry" questions either, I can sort of see why that's not really a fair question. I'm talking about the fact that every single business that has ever tried to replace its employees with AI, has always failed, and failed almost immediately. Even Amazon couldn't make it work.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I think the idea is that, whilst shorting, you get squeezed. The question is not 'if' but 'when' and if it takes too long and you're $1B deep you can lose your shirt

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

inevitable only in hindsight

I'm not so sure. I'm still friends with a guy who told me emphatically "you dont understand what we did, we destroyed the global economy" and then explained the whole subprime mortgage scam to me, back in like 2007. Lots of downstream businesses, new home builders, paint and drywall companies, building materials stores, started folding several months before the official crash as well. I wasn't nearly as aware of things then, I was a grown adult but not yet 30 and with little formal education, but there were definitely huge flashing signs. Only the media, based 100% on the words of the banks and insurance companies, thought that a crash was undetectable.

I'm not sure quite what it would look like yet, but I'm willing to bet if you look where these data centers are being built, when the cash runs out to keep the whole scam afloat, these big companies will stop paying their bills. The smaller companies providing services and supplies will run out of money before the huge mega corpos start showing signs, so that is one of the metrics I'm watching closely. I just happen to live in the shadow of these data centers so I'll be pretty close to it, that is if I'm right.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 108 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As an aside, you can tell how successful the rebranding of twitter as “x” has been, since even now more than 2 years after the rebranding news articles still have to add “formerly known as twitter” every time they mention it.

[–] Klowner@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That dumbass throwing away the Twitter brand for a damn letter should be proof enough to anyone that he's a moron

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[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nvidia down ~8% this week, Palantir down ~10%

Maybe the needle really is shifting.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe, but he's also been super wrong a bunch of times on his skitzo twitter account so grains of salt and all that. Not saying the guy isn't smart, clearly called one of the biggest systemic crisis of our times, but he struck gold once and struck out a bunch more often.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Burry also lost money since 2008 making shorts like Tesla. The Big Shart.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looks like very mixed returns. Which is what you'd expect from a strategy of betting on areas that are significantly overvalued.

[–] Natanael 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The market can remain irrational for longer than you can remain solvent

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Its not a question of "if" but "when."

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 58 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Burry similarly made a long-term $1 billion bet from 2005 onwards against the US mortgage market, anticipating its collapse. His fund rose a whopping 489 percent when the market did subsequently fall apart in 2008.

We may have to wait for another three years.

I looked into the article to find out how long a timeframe he is betting. Unfortunately, it does not say.

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[–] duplexsystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I do think there is an AI bubble, but "guy who bets against things, bets against the latest thing"

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The simple fact that somebody was able even to bet a billion is insanity that should never be possible to begin with.

Nobody should have a billion dollars, let alone have so much that you can just safely bet a billion dollars

Them he's betting.yhst the economy will crash, basically, and we're okay with that shit.

All of this should be illegal as fuck, and this guy belongs in a jail cell

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