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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/10/13/big-bonuses-relaxed-policies-new-slogan-none-of-it-saved-military-recruiting-crisis-2023.html

Despite a barrage of hefty bonuses, loosened and more progressive enlistment requirements, and even the creation of innovative pre-boot camp programs, the U.S. military mostly fell short in efforts to bring more Americans into the services over the past year -- and it's unclear how or when that will change.

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[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The kids now are all hardcore consumerists, nihilists, and hedonists

They dug their own grave by exploiting the youth so hard by attacking their brains to consoom

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A generation of lotus eaters. Great.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

did you ever read the Odessey the crew that joined the lotus eaters were the only ones besides Odysseus that didn't die. The marxist reading of the Odyssey is "tell your boss to fuck off and do drugs"

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

Oh no they’re all sissified femboys who would rather plague League than get their testicles mangled by an IED for Lockheed Martin like a real man.

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[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

exploiting the youth so hard by attacking their brains to consoom

It must be Chinese TikTok to blame why our children are useless gamers who want to be Vaush when they grow up!

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

long-standing issues ranging from the ineligibility of many young Americans to serve, a reduced propensity to serve overall, and other barriers to service are still exacerbating the recruiting problem and looming in the future.

The kids today are alright

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone's fat bc of horrible processed foods, sedentary lifestyle, depression, overwork, poverty, and stress. Everyone's cardiovascular system is riddled with covid. Everyone's mentally ill for the say reason we're all fat. Everyone's on weed. And no one has much faith left in the government. Plus based zoomers. Another example of capitalist autocannibalism at work. It's created conditions so bad that the state can't produce enough soldiers to man the empire.

that happened just before the end of the british empire too except then people were too thin because they were all on the verge of starvation. What really did in the British empire was when the British workforce became too malnutritioned to work on the level of their better fed American and German counterparts and thus the empires single remaining source of revenue dried up (by that point everything India had that could be easily stolen had been and people don't account for how expensive militarily occupying hundreds of millions of people is)

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

have they tried destroying the corporations and political class and instating communism? i bet that would help recruiting numbers thinking-about-it

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Everyone sees the serious health problems veterans have. People see that the government has entirely abandoned them and the VA doesn't even do effective suicide prevention. Why the fuck would anyone join except ideology?

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

Unironically I thank Trump for going mask off and revealing to truth to everyone: soldiers are losers and suckers; disposable people for politicians. Of course people aren't going to sign up for that lmao

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 24 points 2 years ago

Before I had been infected with the woke mind virus and turned commie, I had seriously considered it.

Pay (considering you have little to no bills while enlisted) is quite good, more time off than most jobs, propaganda, and also a longing to belong to some sort of group since capitalism has made everybody extremely isolated. Oh and having little "marketable" skills kinda makes your future look bleak.

Thank god I didn't.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

For me, I considered joining the Navy because it looked easy as fuck, you do nothing all day, and also because I felt directionless and needed structure in my life. But then I took Soulja Boy’s advice

Fuck the F.B.I. and fuck all the Army troops Fighting for what, bitch? Be your own man

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I’m not sure if that’s bc I am a commie, I don’t hang out in kids spaces obviously, but for me it seems like a lot of the over the top chauvinism and troop worship is also just cringe

Edit: the us is also just losers, haven’t won a war since WW2 and now after 9/11 people actually get sent to combat so why risk getting your arms blown off for a Camaro

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah the "thank you for your service" shit is just cringe. Also i think young people are acutely aware that signing up just means dying for no particular reason. Joking about the US invading for oil is a staple for anyone under 30 and the only people i know that signed up are psychopaths who want to murder. Anyone who would have joined now just become cops.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

psychopaths who want to murder. Anyone who would have joined now just become cops

well if you just want to murder being a cop is just the objectively better option, higher pay, less danger there is no upside to the army in comparison

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

streamlining the naturalization process so recruits can become citizens during basic military training

service guarantees citizenship!

the us is also just losers, haven’t won a war since WW2

You really want to piss them off point out the last major war they won Stalin won it for them

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This obviously calls for a new ping pong table

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Vietnam’s ping pong robot will rise to the challenge

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Too bad it broke in transit

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have they tried turning the imperialist war into a civil war? back-to-me-shining Just switch out the copies of the Constitution they swore to defend with 1936 USSR ones

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago
[–] RollaD20@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Will America be forced to implement a self-destructive Foederati system? marx-goth

Will its new sexy slogan bring in new sexy recruits? awooga

Is everything just drones now? obama-drone

And, Is avocado toast off the menu? monke-beepboop

Find out next time on An Empire in Decay evil

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the US liberally uses become-a-citizen through service schemes and any number of arming/supporting proxy armies would be analogus to roman federates. the PMCs would even be buccellarii or palatini

funnily enough the giant moneypit in the pentagon shoveling the US' budget to private arms dealers is the one thing the late roman state had a better grasp on, with nearly the entire supply-chain and production of military goods run directly

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will America be forced to implement a self-destructive Foederati system

it's called NATO

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I will serve c--t before I slay for the military

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[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You guys think its because kids dont want to join, I say its because the imperial core doesnt waste resources on education, the kids can no longer meet the fitness standards and the empire is always growing so course they can't fill the same quotas.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love me another misanthropist

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Hexbear never seems to be able to reconcile how many people get turned away from failling the ASVAB, having a criminal record or having stuff like asthma

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see recruiters all the time hovering around the school like vultures. They offer to make waivers all the time for just about everything except (maybe) criminal records.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

they can say anything they want, they're not the ones who get them through processing

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[–] manuallybreathing@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

my soul = $5

avocado toast = $14

where do I sign up?

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Recruiters: Start offering head. It'll at least make it funnier.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s a Navy exclusive bonus offer

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They've already got Lujan implying it

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

it's probably the being shot at and veterans having terrible memories and warning people away

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s incredible because most Americans are slaves to the military and literally eat their boots before saying a bad thing about a soldier. But that still won’t make them sign up for a shitty job then end up homeless.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

A lot of those flag fuckers are too old to enlist

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

and it's unclear how or when that will change.

:you-dont-say:

Isn't there a basic contradiction when you have population stagnation, with a possible collapse, and an institution that throws bodies into the Fire? thonk

spoiler:empty-thoughts-empty-head:

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tie military service up with housing, you don't serve you go homeless. Poverty Draft 2.0 baybeee

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How can those pre-boot camp programs be 'innovative' if they don't accomplish the goal they were set out to do?

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[–] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

up next: private military corporations like Metal Gear Solid

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

:willock-good

[–] wahwahwah@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How long until they start impressing poor kids into the army? I'm guessing they'll start with foster kids, then incarcerated ones, then random Black kids out past curfew.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the recruitment stations are already strategically placed in the manner you have described

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Judges will just go back to offering a suspended sentence if they sign up. Of course that's just the military industrial complex cannibalizing the prison industrial complex. Do you want soldiers or slaves?

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