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  • My first pick is "What If...?". In a multiverse of infinite possibilities, we ended up getting the same old same old. We could have gotten a nice, episodic, self-contained anthology series that had nothing to do with the rest of the MCU (as it was originally marketed as) but then they had to go and add a huge, connecting storyline. Not to mention the animation style could have been a bit better.
  • And then there's Secret Invasion, which by all accounts was a complete mess. A lot of people say that this should have been the main story arc of Phases 4 to 6 instead of the multiverse. They could have slowly teased the presence of Skrulls invading Earth (perhaps by revealing that some of the Avengers were Skrulls all along?) and maybe used the plot of Secret Invasion as a feature film instead of a series.
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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Thor Love and Thunder by a mile.

What If? had a phenomenal season 1, even if it wasn't great after that.

Secret Invasion had potential. But it would have needed to be very careful to get the most out of it. I never really had high expectations from it.

Someone said Doctor Strange 2, but IMO it was everything I wanted out of a Doctor Strange movie. DS1 was more of a letdown.

Eternals should have been a show. But it was well made and had some top-notch CGI.

Thor 4 though was the most frustrating because it's so close to being an awesome movie. Just look at the deleted scene with Zeus. It's so much better than the orgy conversation. And Gorr was fucking awesome, I just wanted to see more of him. I want them to spend some money, patch it up, and re-release it. I would go to the theaters again for it if they did.

[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I absolutely loved What If, can’t complain about it.

Secret Invasion was such a wasted potential and a disappointing hot mess.

I saw someone else mention Dr. Strange 2 and I will have to agree. Wanda was always one of my favorite characters from the comics and the way they turned her evil seemed so…weird? It was like there was a plot line going in the WandaVision series but then when it ended there was a missing series we never saw in which she really just said fuck it I’n truly chaotic evil now

I think the Eternals belongs on this list as well.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Considering Secret Invasion killed off my girl...

spoilerMaria Hill

...that, in and of itself, wasted a lot of potential. I thought for sure it was gonna be a fake out, but nope. It happened, and I'm still pissed off about it.

[–] edcasting@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Eh… one death doesn't waste the potential of an entire story, particularly when she's never been a very important character even on the source material.

[–] popcornpizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago

I liked What If, but was disappointed by Secret Invasion. Supposedly, Secret Invasion's production was crappy due to the pandemic and the invasion on Ukraine, or something like that.

But my beef with the MCU/Disney post-Endgame is that they are not committing to anything. They go "oh, Secret Invasion flopped, let's completely scrap everything we had been setting up for that story... oh, Majors is a piece of shit, let's complety scrap that storyline instead of recasting..." And it's not like a future movie or show couldn't retroactively fix a flop.

At this point, I prefer stuff like What If and Zombies, or Agatha All Along, stuff that is somewhat connected but different. The main arc, so to speak, is turning into The X-Files mythos arc, which was famously all over the place and one is better off skipping those episodes on rewatch.

[–] MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 hours ago

Secret Invasion is more of a whiff in my opinion because What If...takes place outside the main continuity anyway. The Secret Invasion trailers also looked really good, promising a slow burn spy thriller. It had so much going for it. Alas...

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Those two are good. I'd also add Black Panther 2 and Dr. Strange 2. Both were hyped, and both of them got saddled with "backdoor pilot" and stage-setting duties for multiple properties at the expense of their own narratives. Marvel's done that all the way back to the first post-credit Avengers stinger, but in those two cases it was a lot and really kneecapped two promising projects. Then of course BP got dealt a very rough hand with Chadwick Boseman's passing, but I'm not sure they played that hand very well, either.

[–] Entheon@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

I did enjoy that What If had a connecting storyline, but they leaned a little too hard into it. Season 1 was a decent balance for it, but 2 and 3 could have definitely been more episodic.

[–] edcasting@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

. The Thor series are really up there in terms of wasting great epic source material and acting talent. Ragnarok ended up being more sophomore humor than a reflective epic to fit, and let's not even talk about Thor: Love and Thunder. Even worse for the fact you know Chris Hemsworth has waited for a movie worthy of his character for so long, yet he keeps getting relegated to comedic relief.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Everything post Endgame has largely been a waste.

It's either "I got snapped and I'm sad" or "I didn't get snapped and I'm sad."

They had no over-arching plot the way they did originally, first with building the Avengers, then with Thanos and the Infinity stones.

When they tried to introduce a bigger plot, too late IMHO, Kang, it got smothered in the cradle first by starting in a movie nobody saw (Quantumania), crossing into a Disney+ show that, again, excellent, but nobody saw (Loki).

Then, of course, the actor problems.

They are just now trying to get back on track with Doom. Hope it's not too late.