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"You will see mass flight delays. You'll see mass cancelations, and you may see us close certain parts of the airspace, because we just cannot manage it because we don't have the air traffic controllers."
Maybe y'all shouldn't have let DOGE chainsaw the FAA, then.
Not to take any rightful criticism off of DOGE, but ATCs just have never properly recovered from Reagan getting pissy, and are still just not properly equipped.
The answer is obviously force them to work without pay or face jail, right?
What does this even mean? How do you “close certain parts of the airspace”?
Do you invoke NORAD to prevent airplanes from flying into certain portions of US air space? Do you NOTAM certain airspace as class G? Do you maintain the class so VFR can’t fly through and have IFR avoid it? Do you put a TFR across the airspace?
Come on, dude. Be specific. FAA is DOT. You have the means to find someone who knows the correct words.
Because it’s a threat, not a safety measure
This is yet another loud chest beating to signal Republican incompetence
Just keep reminding anybody that blames the Democrats that it’s the Republicans who are in charge right now. No need to argue or go down any rabbit holes with them; just a gentle friendly reminder and move on.
This might actually affect some republican politicians. They must REALLY want health insurance premiums to go up.
Trump wants to remove medical debt exclusions from credit reports: https://apnews.com/article/medical-debt-cfpb-fcra-equifax-experian-trans-union-fdb5ad61e4ca0f18943045d314dd7b3b
Trump wants to open forced labor internment camps for the unhoused: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-homeless/
It sucks for all the normal folks impacted by this, but being unable to travel for Thanksgiving might actually wake up enough people to the plight they voted for.
You know that all republicans (including redneck in trailer parks) are watching faux news 24h/24 where they talk about the horrible democrat shutdown, so they will remember to vote republican again.
Yep. They are getting their news from the "news" networks that cannot even get the fucking name of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY right.
I don't hold out much hope for them to wake up, since these are also the people that are terrified of all things "woke".
There's always a few that aren't, people who can be pried off of the leftward flank.
If you think there aren't then you might as well start advocating for the dissolution of the United States, because the experiment is over and it's a failure.
I fled a republican controlled hell hole because I'm queer. Even if flying was in a normal situation I wouldn't be going back there anytime soon.
I'm "lucky" in that I haven't really been close to my family for a verity of reasons, but I have friends who are and it does suck for them.
Let them ~~eat cake~~ take Greyhound.
Greyhound is not cake in this analogy, it would be a private jet.
I'm all for it.
This might be a stupid question but I’m not from the US so bear with me.
If your “government” keeps not doing its job due to choosing to shutdown, how long until you decide this government isn’t doing its sole task of governing and get rid of it and form another?
We elect our politicians on a set schedule, and keep our Executive and Legislative branches separate. So, the next opportunity to "form a new government" is next November, when we re-elect the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate.
And keep in mind what this shutdown actually is. It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations -- in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.
Why can't these agencies just continue to spend money? Because Congress made it illegal to exceed appropriations. This shutdown is not a bug, it's how our politicians have set things up, on purpose.
It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations -- in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.
Yeah, it’s worth noting that the government shutdown is not budget related. The budget has already been passed. We know how much is going to be spent, and how it will be spent… This shutdown is because the appropriation was run separately, meaning the budget has passed but the various accounts for the budget have no money in them yet. The money already exists. It could be spent. But it’s not in the correct accounts, so the various agencies can’t access it. Thus, those agencies are shut down.
Good explanation, thank you. Not at all what I expected.
These assholes keep trying to blame this on Democrats. I see Mikey Johnson standing there and brazenly lying about SNAP and healthcare, FFS.
Third world country.
Even third world countries keep their airports operating. Failed state is probably better descriptor.
Isn’t that an insult to several third world countries?
Don't you guys have ~~phones~~ private jets?
Map of affected areas:
(Good airspace is Red, bad airspace is Blue)
Winning!
Oh do go on. Can't wait to see where this all ends up heading...
Unless the left can find some way of reaching them, right-wing media will convince Trump's followers that "radical extremist Democrats" are causing all this trouble in the USA and only more fascism can fix it.
It's heading nowhere according to Duffy.