Lucille Ball helped get Star Trek going ... it was ALWAYS meant to be forward thinking.

It's like those guys who say one piece isn't political. Are we even reading the same thing? I guess we all interact with media differently

Modern woke trek. No I'm not old it just came out...30 you say

edit: @ummthatguy wasn't being pedantic, I dylexia'd the maths and edited from 20 to 30 about the same time they commented.

I started watching Discovery and Strange New Worlds recently. Honestly while it seems they are at least not so blatantly sexist as they used to be, in other ways, it seems like the newer shows are less political than the old ones. It's almost like a hybrid between classic Star Trek, and the Star-Wars-in-Star-Trek-Clothing movies that JJ Abrams made.

I like em though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Most of the best episodes are about debates, social issues, and general talking.

People have been dumbed down in those 50 years.

Which one of you mf's is ashamed to call themselves a Social Justice Warrior?

Ok but what about MY feelings? As I have grown older I have atrophied into more conservative views in a way I don't want to admit may be toxic and Star Trek is forcing me to grapple with that. I don't think that is fair, I just wanted some light scifi entertainment fluff with no substance to it.

/s

The real question is why they stopped and what the fuck SNW Season 3 is supposed to be

"I'll protect you, fair maiden!"

"Sorry, neither."

Old Trek covered social justice issues by putting people who were being marginalized in our society in powerful roles, then having them do their fucking jobs, and do them well.

New Trek covers social justice issues by having bridge crew members sitting around crying about childhood issues from 20 years ago while the universe is actively being destroyed, and instead of being kicked off of the bridge so they can get their shit together, the rest of the bridge crew sits around and comforts them while some no-name ensign silently saves the day in the background. Or some member of the bridge crew, completely unfocused and not paying attention to the problem at all, accidents their way into saving humanity.

These are not the same.

Most of that rant is about Discovery. I hate Discovery. SNW is much better when it comes to this.

Hey, it's a The Good Place meme in the wild!

The 1969 episode "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" is a good example.

You mean the series, which showed an interracial kiss for the first time on tv? Not to mention TNG. Where a woman was the head of security. And the episode of the first series, where they had a society ruled by women.

I love how this meme glazes over the incredibly shit writing of NuTrek, or how the social presented in NuTrek are incredibly safe topics already popular on social media, instead of the some of the very controversial things that Trek has done in the past.

The most controversial thing NuTrek does is being hated by anyone who actually understands Trek, and attracting a lot of tourists.

I feel like it is a bit more nuanced. Yes TOS was forward leaning on race issues. But it was conservative in other areas such as pro-Vietnam War (as seen in the conclusion of "Private Little War") and anti-hippie (as seen in "Way to Eden"). Today's Trek is much more liberal overall when you look at it taken as a whole IMHO.

"Don't worry, you're in the Good Place." - Rick Berman