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TrekMovie.com - Rick Berman And Brannon Braga Defend The Controversial ‘Star Trek: Enterprise’ Series Finale (trekmovie.com)
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[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 1 points 21 minutes ago

Rick Berman described the producers’ view that providing an organic-feeling final episode to properly wrap things up would be impossible

honestly i think Terra Firma Part II would have gotten the job done fine, and if they had kept everything as is but called it the finale and left These Are The Voyages as a DVD extra or a TV "movie" people would have been happier. or at least they'd have an easier time detaching their distate for TATV from the rest of Enterprise

that bit about Trinner saying "ok, kill me!" is funny as hell

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think the core concept could have worked. Look at Babylon season 4's finale, which was at the time expected to wrap up the series: they hop through future time periods to see the enduring legacy these characters leave behind. It worked well, and there's no reason it couldn't have worked even better if we already had an emotional attachment to the future era we jumped to.

What failed was that the "enduring legacy" was to be consumed like a daytime soap in between shifts. Frakes and Sirtis playing themselves a decade younger sure didn't help. Maybe if they put them together on the Titan at the appropriate age and crafted a new story that somehow called back to the founding of the Federation in a way that tied both periods together meaningfully they could have had something.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 2 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

iirc the series finale was originally filmed to be the S4 finale, which is how they get ivanova even though she left the show in S5. the S4 finale we got was a rush job when they found out they were getting a final season and wanted to keep the finale they filmed as the series finale

i agree with your sentiment though, if it was the series finale i think it would've worked well

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 minutes ago

Ah, that sounds right. It’s been too many years since I revisited B5, but I do remember that we were lucky enough to have Ivanova make one last appearance in the actual finale.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

rick berman: i have done nothing wrong ever in my life
me: i know this and i love you

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 9 hours ago

Just to be clear, this article does not mention that this episode of The D-Con Chamber was their Watch Party for “Shuttlepod One”. This just happened to come up in conversation as being a notable episode of the series which Berman and Braga worked on.

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

we wanted to send a valentine to the franchise, and I still stand by the concept of the episode, which is it’s actually an episode of Next Generation where they’re looking back at Enterprise on the holodeck, which I think is a cool idea

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago

I mean it is a cool idea. It's not a cool idea for a last minute series finale, but it's a cool idea.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

which is it's

And bad grammar too. Tsk, tsk.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Which is: it’s actually an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation.

Sorry I think grammar checks out this time. Is the transcript of an interview, right?

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Punctuation can change context and/or grammar, but I'll meet you in the middle on that one. I'll also just keep telling myself that it was an intentional mistake by the editors to trigger real grammar nazis.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i.e. the Vulcans

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

The purpose of punctuation is to make communication clearer. But over-adherence to prescriptivism inhibits communication. IDIC includes people who don’t punctuate worth a damn 🖖

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Keep opening your mouth and proving you’re the worst story teller to have anything to do with Trek, Ricky. I’m including whoever wrote the Spock’s Brain episode.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 5 points 7 hours ago

I’m including whoever wrote the Spock’s Brain episode.

The episode's dialogue is much better if you replace "brain" with "dick".