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Premier Danielle Smith has used the ‘notwithstanding clause’ to shield the strike-breaking bill from a court challenge.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 34 points 19 hours ago

The only purpose for the notwithstanding clause, is to violate Canadian's Charter rights. It needs to be removed from the Charter, or the Charter is pointless.

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 23 points 19 hours ago

You should have done what the airline union did, and said “Fuck YOU!!”

[–] OliveMoon@lemmy.ca 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The Albertans are HUGE pussies. Fuck the notwithstanding clause. Fuck the fines. You just gave up your rights!

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Gee, thanks. If you ever wonder why people from my province dislike the rest of the country, look no further than the above.

Since teachers were ordered back to work, students have been staging walkouts, the AFL has stated support for the ATA strike stating that a full-on general strike is on the table, support for the UCP has dropped in the polls, and the NDP has made it clear they will fight on this front in the legislature and elsewhere...

...and yet still to the rest of the country we're just the brunt of the joke where we're just the idiotic, cowardly conservatives that continue to shoot ourselves in the foot because people can't be bothered to learn the dynamics of how this province operates. All you need to do is look at the last provincial election to see the NDP's performance improvement in comparison to when Kenny's UCP was elected, especially when it comes to how they performed in Calgary.

I would appreciate people more if they bothered to learn why Alberta is the way it is, but I guess it's so much more simple to simply switch the brain off and continue calling us hicksville or such simply because it's always the "in" thing to do.

Edit: Downvotes despite literal facts being presented, people giving false history in the replies whilst claiming that others aren't educated, and insults directed at Albertans even more despite an Albertan not having done so to either them or the feds. Way to prove a point.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

In the United States the Nazis say they became Nazis because the libs were condescending.

You shouldn't fall into the same bullshit argument.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 24 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Person from Ontario who moved to Alberta 15 years ago here. Want to know the secret of why no one outside Alberta cares about Alberta? Because Alberta isn't special, and the oil and gas patch isn't special. Its a nice little windfall that will run out one day and the province has no plan B.

I've had to have this conversation with coworkers who complain about how no one in BC or out east care about Alberta and when I ask then if they care about automotive layoffs in Ontario, or loss of fisheries jobs on the east coast, or cost of living issues on the west coast, they outright say they don't give a shit or they say "its different". Its not different, Alberta isn't the economic powerhouse of Canada that it thinks it is. Beyond that though, we have a really fucking stupid government that's actively destroying what's left of our education and healthcare systems, and the dumb fuck hicks outside Calgary and Edmonton do in fact eat it up hook line And sinker.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the province has no plan B

Want some irony? The NDP held Alberta for a long time, until Peter Lougheed won it for the conservatives on a platform of diversifying away from oil to build a healthy and resilient economy.

Then they elected him and threw out the plan, suckling at the oil teat that much harder.

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

This is literally false, the NDP never held Alberta before 2015, the party that controlled Alberta before Lougheed's Progressive Conservatives was the Social Credit Party, which came to power in the Depression era with the promise of Social Credit (an idea similar to that of UBI), which was then struck down by the courts as being unconstitutional as the program would have overrode federal jurisdiction.

The SoCreds were viscerally socially conservative, especially under Ernest Manning (father of Preston Manning), and Lougheed was incredibly progressive in comparison to the premiers before him; a literal Progressive Conservative where he was socially progressive, and fiscally conservative.

Editing this to add in the fact that Lougheed realised that oil wouldn't be able to hold the province up forever, and thus started the Heritage Fund to save for further developing and diversifying the economy. This fund literally partly inspired Norway's Government Pension Fund, showcasing that Lougheed was on the right path with what he'd done. You are defacing the best premier this province has ever had, and placing the faults of the Klein government and governments that followed onto Lougheed unjustly.

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

You're blanketing the thoughts of an entire province's population with those of a handful of people. There's more than plenty people here that care about work issues elsewhere, it's why a lot of people came here to begin with. My own family came out this way from Newfoundland because of a lack of job opportunities there at the time, and I know of others from Atlantic Canada, namely New Brunswick, who came this way because of a scarce job market out that way.

The very reason why there's this to and fro negativity between Albertans and the rest of Canada is because the government doesn't push for new job opportunities in Alberta that aren't related to O&G. What are the feds doing for canola farmers? It is so easy to go out there and support our canola farmers through tariffs on olive oil and other cooking oils, as well as marketing campaigns to Canadian consumers, yet that doesn't happen. How about supporting struggling sugar beet farmers, who are almost all based in Alberta and the only source of domestic sugar in Canada? It isn't hard to develop frameworks for a domestic sugar market and develop a Domestic Sugar Policy like every other developed country, and yet we continue to screw over the people who literally feed us because it's "not politically worthwhile".

What about Danielle Smith teasing hydrogen vehicle manufacturing in Alberta? At no point did the feds say "yes, we support more jobs in Alberta, let's get the ball rolling and work together on this", leaving Smith backed into a corner of actually needing to do something. At no point have they talked about diversifying the economy in Alberta to help the province out of it's woes, and at no point have they mentioned any programs to assist oil workers like those in my family who lost their jobs in finding new work, especially after they were left behind by the province like they were despite doing everything expected of them.

It is painfully easy to fall for someone who tells you how exceptional you are as they make your life worse when the opposite side hasn't given you the support that you need. It's also painfully easy to have disdain for the rest of the country as a result of that, but not everybody falls down that path.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Let me ask you something, why the fuck would the feds help Alberta? For real though, why would they? I remember back in 2014 in the middle of the oil crash watching coworker after coworker get laid off from their high paying O&G jobs while the federal government extended EI benefits to them, continue to blame all their woes on a liberal government that had nothing to do with a middle eastern, Russian and US Shale production Oil glut. Alberta continues to play the victim in federal politics saying "Ottawa never helps us" even when the liberals bought and funded the completion of a pipeline that was so unpopular that it barely made it across the finish line and had to be forced through jurisdictions that didn't want it there.

And okay let's talk Danielle smith and fucking diversification. Who fucking cares about hydrogen cars? Who's using them? What are people actually using, OH BEVS AND PHEVS, and they are a pretty good solution with sound technology? WEIRD. Maybe she shouldn't have put an axe through our solar and wind renewable market and scared of investors from the province with the excuse of "windmills messing with the view of the Rockies" but slyly pushing for coal mining in the eastern rockies at the same time. I mean I can walk out my front door right now, walk across the street and look at a natural gas processing plant fucking flare up with the rockies as a back drop.

You want the feds to support Alberta farmers? Tell them To stop voting conservative, every single fucking time. Make them into a voting block that will vote for whatever party will actually move away from aligning on every US policy even if its detrimental to our relationship with foreign (Chinese) buyers.

Fucking joke province sometimes.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It is so easy to go out there and support our canola farmers through tariffs on olive oil and other cooking oils, as well as marketing campaigns to Canadian consumers, yet that doesn't happen.

You'd not only run more tariffs - already usually a mistake - just to prop up a sector so people don't have to switch crops?

I was educated in Calgary, but I worry they've slipped.

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca -3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I worry they slipped

Maybe get your own facts right first before saying things like this? You literally claimed the NDP held the province before Lougheed did in another comment, which is painfully easy to disprove. You also claimed Lougheed's Progressive Conservatives ditched the idea of diversifying the province's economy when he literally set up the Heritage Fund as a means to save money for investment into other sectors of Alberta's economy to do so.

I do not appreciate coming here with good intentions only to have someone insult my intelligence as they spew outright nonsense.

Also tariffs are only a detriment when they're not strategically targeted. Canada has tariffs on American dairy because our domestic dairy industry would be destroyed with the influx of cheap milk from the U.S.A., where they literally pour the stuff down drains they have such excess of it. We need to protect our own domestic market, especially when it comes to essential goods like cooking oil.

Edit: Alright, upvote a guy who states literal false information that can be easily Googled, but downvote the guy who presents facts because he's Albertan. Doesn't matter if his politics aligns with the NDP or whatever, go off and downvote facts as "le epic own" because he's from the boogeyman province. This hate is so forced and y'all oughta be ashamed of yourselves.

[–] Bo7a@piefed.ca 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I downvoted because you are just toeing the usual 'alberta is special and here is why the rest of you have to adapt' bullshit that we have heard a million times. Get over it. We are not all misled into thinking that most of the province is regressive. That is how it is.

The majority of that province is hateful morons being super proud of themselves. I lived there for 20 years, my wife for all of her life. So don't go saying I am just following the herd. The facts are simply that outside of calgary and edmonton the vast majority of albertans are insular xenophobes.

Are you seeing a ton of small towns in any other province where the town meetings are full of assholes bleating about wanting to join the US? Because I can tell you right now the acme, beiseker, trochu, three hills, irricana, and carbon, town meetings are FULL of these fucking people.

[–] Binzy_Boi@piefed.ca 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

WHEN DID I AT ALL SAY THIS, YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

Also congrats on again blanketing Albertans as a whole. I can meet some jerks in Northern Ontario, and you won't see me calling the entire province racist, but somehow that's acceptable for you to do with Alberta.

Thanks, appreciate being casually called an asshole, racist, xenophobic prick based on where I was born.

[–] Bo7a@piefed.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

If you choose to align yourself that way that is on you. I said 'the majority'.