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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I think the original quote was something like "Eraserhead is my most spiritual film" "Elaborate on that." "No."

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I believe the actual quote is "Eraser head is my most spiritual film".

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I imagine you are right

[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 68 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

“Yeah! The real primary colours are CMY!”

Also bullshit.

Our RGB primaries are a simplification that comes from availability of pigments. While blue was originally a very rare and valuable pigment made from precious stones, it was still more available than magenta or cyan, which are made synthetically.

All of the following is taking paint mixing into mind.

When looking at a continuous colour wheel:

You can see where each colour sits on the spectrum. When you consider a RBY palette, we are limited to essentially the colours in this triangle:

Mixing a vibrant Purple or Green is often difficult with a basic rby colour palette, and a Magenta or Cyan is impossible. We define a primary colour as “foundational colours that cannot be created by mixing other colours”, which means that CMY are real primaries, right? Well, if we look at the CMy palette:

We DO get a wider range of colours, but you’ll notice that a true purple, green, blue, and red are still outside of our range. You can get a pretty close red with Yellow and Magenta, but it will never be as vibrant as a pure Red pigment. So then Red is a primary?

When painting, you should use the colours that you need for the work, and mix from there. The ‘primary colours’ are a tool to teach students the theory of colour mixing. It is not a perfect guide, but teaching complex colour theory to novice painters is just intimidation. Most people get an intro to art, learn RBY, and then leave art, don’t think about it again until a TikTok titled “school LIED to you” introduced CMY.

EDIT: this is from the perspective of an artist. I am not an expert, and certainly got something wrong in here, but the primary argument has always annoyed me

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 58 minutes ago

In printing it’s a little different, but if you need an exact color you can add it to the process, much like adding a varnish or other fancy finish.

Orange was always a problem when I was a designer. It had to be specific, you had to send a Pantone chip along, hope it hadn’t faded or changed color over the years (or buy new ones constantly) and then it still came out different than planned.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Well written!

Yes we can use any colors as "primary colors", I use 6 when I paint (plus burnt Sienna & Umber because I'm lazy).

The colors you chose lets you mix up paints in a gamut, a gamut of colors is what you can get from those "primaries" that constitute said gamut.

Cheers.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago

Are you confusing subtractive and additive colors? For subtractive (used for e.g. paints) you use CMY, with white being what you get with no colors and black is a perfect mix of full CMY. With subtractive each color takes light away.

Additive (used for lights) works the other way round: the base colors are RGB. No light colors is black, all light colors is white. Adding another color in additive adds more light.

So, sure, if you use additive base colors in a subtractive process, you will get garbage and vice versa.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The real fascinating thing is that Impossible Colors exist, which means it’s kind of impossible to actually represent all colors or impossible to precisely represent them.

Imo it seems colors are relative to how our brain and eyes are adapting to their current field of view, meaning the color you experience is not fully dependent on the light an object actually reflects nor the activation of your rods and cones but is dependent on the way your brain processes those signals with each other. Ergo, you can’t actually represent all colors precisely unless you can control every environmental variable like the color of every object in someone’s field of view and where someone’s eyes have been looking previously etc.

[–] Brosplosion@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pedantic, but anything measurable and continuous is impossible to precisely represent. π/e meters for example.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to be even more pedantic you could say no metre stick is exactly 1 metre long according to the current definition of a metre. If you want to be scientific then all of them are within some reasonable range like 1.000 ± 0.002 m. If you want to be historic then at one time there was a perfect metre stick

In 1799, the metre was redefined in terms of a prototype metre bar. The bar used was changed in 1889, and in 1960 the metre was redefined in terms of a certain number of wavelengths of a certain emission line of krypton-86. The current definition was adopted in 1983 and modified slightly in 2002 to clarify that the metre is a measure of proper length. From 1983 until 2019, the metre was formally defined as the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum in 1/299792458⁠ of a second.

[–] Live_your_lives@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Wait, what changed in 2019?

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

And here I thought the primary colors were RGB

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

RGB are the additive colors (light projected) CMYK are the subtractive colors (light reflected)

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 7 hours ago

Any set of colors can make a primary color palette. It's just that we most often mean for human eyesight.

Even then, when talking about perception, because the response of red and green comes in our eye overlap we need imaginary colors to uniquely express them. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/CIExy1931_ProPhoto.svg/1280px-CIExy1931_ProPhoto.svg.png

[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

There are different sets of primaries used when we talk about screen, print, light, and paint.

Most people learn RBY through painting, whether as a child, or in art classes at school, and assume it applies to all colour.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 24 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 55 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

David Lynch, an influential filmmaker

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for letting me know.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

He also has a very iconic voice, I'm sure you've heard it somewhere in your lifetime.

https://youtube.com/shorts/5yRKSVRbgOI

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[–] stepan@lemmy.cafe 21 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I've seen his art exhibition in Prague just two days ago, watched the Twin Peaks movie yesterdey, and definitely going to watch the series soon.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Twin Peaks is great. The Return is phenomenal so definitely push through the first season of TP which can be a bit clunky

[–] Pep@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

The first season is still excellent 90s TV. The middle of the second season is questionable though

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago

The show gets boring very suddenly, then equally suddenly gets great again. Turns out, Lynch left the show for that exact period.

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah when Ben or Jerry goes full civil war miniature reenactment I remember thinking what the hell are we doing here exactly plot-wise

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I loved that stuff and the cheap TV thriller plot of James getting abducted by a femme fatale in a mansion then running away to Mexico. And Donna manipulating a horrible representation of a young man with autism who lives next door to a magical baby David Lynch. and Cooper's evil ex-partner who was never mentioned before coming back as the villain for the last four episodes. Just pure craziness

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Its been a while since I did a full watch through but doesnt the case get solved in the middle of S2? I remember really liking the later half of S2 when the conspiracy stuff and all the different plotlines really got underway but I know this isnt a popular opinion

All 3 seasons are great though, but man, those first couple of 1 are dense and put me to sleep for years every time I tried starting it. Eventually I just had to sit down at 10AM on a Sunday with a (damn fine) cup of coffee and force myself through them

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Shit. You shouldn't watch the movie first, because it has major spoilers for the series in it.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Who cares? Can't put the genie back in the bottle now.

Sometimes I'm glad I can't be spoiled. I'm literally always along for the ride

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

But they aren't. They're the colours corresponding to the peak frequency responses of the cone cells in your retinas.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 21 points 12 hours ago
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This comment is total fucking bullshit.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago

I miss him so fucking much bros

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Muffi@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry you found out this way. I found out by randomly coming across his headstone in LA.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 1 points 18 minutes ago

That's more shocking than seeing a random post on Lemmyn

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Earlier this year, yeah. Feels like forever ago though

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ... That was only January? Ive aged 5 years since then.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I was so sure it was around the time that covid began. I still just can't believe it was this year, this feels like some Mandela effect shit (I don't actually believe in that, just saying it it feels).

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

A lot of formulaic stuff in media is bullshit. So much shit is done for no other reason than because it worked once before. Primary colors are one of them. Story structure; forget the actual name of it but every story doesn't need to be arranged in that particular order of start, build up, conflict, resolution (Pulp Fiction is a great example of something that ignores this rule). And more.

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