Nothing. I've spent my life arguing and several years arguing professionally. There are not many bigger wastes of time. I still do it, just to speak my peace, not because I'm hoping to change a bunch of minds.
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Noah's ark myth never happened, and the earth was never completely flooded at any point in its history.
People may lie, but the rock record doesn't.
I thought that the Earth was molten rock, then cooled, then rained/flooded, and then sometime later, single cell organisms/life.
Nope, at no time has there ever been enough free water to completely submerge all land.
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According to a new, Harvard-led study, geochemical calculations about the interior of the planet’s water storage capacity suggests Earth’s primordial ocean 3 to 4 billion years ago may have been one to two times larger than it is today, and possibly covered the planet’s entire surface.
“It depends on the conditions and parameters we look at in the model, such as the height and distribution of the continents, but the primordial ocean could have flooded more than 70, 80, and even 90 percent of the early continents,” said Junjie Dong, a Ph.D. student in Earth and Planetary Sciences at the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, who led the study. “In the extreme scenarios, if we have an ocean that is two times larger than the amount of water we have today, that might have completely flooded the land masses we had on the surface of the early Earth.”
They're saying that there isn't enough water on the surface today, but that an undetermined amount of water that used to be on the surface is now below the surface, and it's possible that that amount is sufficient that all land was at one point submerged.
And the amount of heat necessary to liberate all the water bound in minerals to flood the planet would liquify the crust again. Noah's magic box would burst into flames and everyone would die.
The water would boil away into vapor.
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Define winning.
I could win why there is no god but many people can not accept this since it would literally destroy them with this belief, hence reject it as self protection. That's just how humans work.
Bringing me back to the question. What even is 'winning an argument'?
(If you feel the urge to downvote: go ahead but ask yourself - do you feel threatened?)
It's as simple as asking why over and over. Toddlers do it.
What is? Me or them?
Asking is natural and usually makes you know more about the world, it's what science is built on.
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That being vegan is an ethical choice compared to not being vegan.
they're both ethical choices. like in the trolley problem, pulling the lever or not.
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Sure, if you don't mind breeding vegetables for your own greedy enjoyment, I guess you can get on a high horse just because you don't also abuse animals.
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Nowadays nothing. Part of the problem is im not really looking to win an argument. Im looking to discuss but I have my own conclusions since at this age there is little to nothing I have not thought about at some point. When I say conclusions though that is just a current end state not some sort of this is it and could never be different thing. All the same its not like someone stating they really really think its different or this written thing in my belief is definitive fact is going to cause me to jump up and change.
That AI is currently sentient and represents an example of a silicon based life form.
I might not be technically correct but I will absolutely shift the ontological and philosophical framing until I cannot be proven wrong.
Arguments are for children and those with the mental maturity of a schoolyard bully.
Conversations are where the mature people duke it out, and the point of a conversation is not to win but to see each other on equal ground, understand the position of the other party, and come to a conclusion that benefits both parties.
I know you're trolling but this has been a real point of disagreement between me and my wife. I was raised to think that arguing means making arguments to convince someone, irregardless of the volume of those arguments. My wife was raised to think that arguing means yelling, usually about stuff that should have been hammered out months ago.
Every once in a while I'll accidentally refer to a heated conversation I had with my wife as "remember when we had that argument about ______" and my wife will look at me with this confused and hurt expression as if I had accused her of spousal abuse, because when she hears the word "argument" she thinks of how her parents would argue. Other times when we visit my parents my mom or dad will make a passing comment about how we "argue so much" or "are always going at it" since we're always negotiating and debating and discussing, and then I'll have to quickly reassure my wife that I love her and she's a good person and that my parents also love her and think she's a good person and remind her that my parents meant "debating or negotiating" since they don't consider screaming matches to be arguing.
It's sometimes difficult to remember that many people think arguing means "screaming at each other until one person retreats" because thats what so many parents do. Not saying my parents are saints ofc, but when they had screaming arguments they would retreat, process the arguments, and come back to say "I'm sorry I screamed at you, and also you were right about X and Y, but let's talk about Z more etc" which is what I thought a normal parent argument was.
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