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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah boi I do this. Need it to be crisp. Appropriate high five for appropriate occasion. Same with handshakes, I ain't gonna let my boys be greeted with a fumbled shake. Naw they deserve PERFECTION

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

From a european perspective this seems weird and racist

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

From an American perspective, this is weird and racist.

[–] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thought you were about to summon something in the beninging.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Lmao I’m in a huge battle with my autocorrect right now. The dumbest one is that I typed “à la mode” literally one time this morning and now every single time I use the word “à” it’s adding a fucking reverse accent. I have never written à full French sentence in my life. What the fuck Apple?

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

From an American perspective, this is on point. Especially in suburbia

It's almost like we have our own culture separated from our Old World cousins. That punchline was pure nostalgia

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 66 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Why are we so seemingly obsessed with assigning thing into ethnic/race groups?

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 33 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Mm, yes, no one else in the history of the world has ever been racist.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 18 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I get that, I've just found Americans online like to inject race into everything regardless of where they are on the political spectrum

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do they have little flags attached to their names, like that one 4chan board? Maybe just the loud obnoxiously Americans do that, or you associate anyone loud and obnoxious with being American.

Either way, race has been a huge issue since before America even existed (they mostly imported their racism from Europe). I won't deny that quite a few loud groups use race as wedge issue these days, though, no matter their political spectrum.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

No, I'd say race is primarily US-American concept.

Language/nationality are in Europe the most relevant factors. Racism simply due to skin color does happen too but it occurs less often than other forms of discrimination (because there are simply significantly fewer people of a different "race". The US-American view would just see white people discriminating against white people.)

I mean, a Black and a White US-American are culturally far more similar than an English and a Polish guy but in looks far more different. So US-Americans discriminate primarily by looks (racism) while the English discriminate primarily by culture (xenophobia). That's why British Indians (considered to belong to a Brown race in the US) can be the leaders of the Tories with barely any outcry while in the US Obama caused Republicans to collapse into a hatred singularity called "Trump".

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

You realize that times have existed before now, right? The entire concept of racism in America comes from the European idea of "Noble Savages". Not to mention the slave trade was a Dutch concept that was imported to the US for a huge profit.

The idea that somehow everyone else's hands are clean but apparently everyone in the US is somehow tainted is a ridiculous passing of the blame so you don't have to consider the actual cause, rather than a nationalist one.

Granted, you are talking about how European ideas are xenophobic, so displaying your own is a point in your favor.

Times before are somewhat irrelevant when speaking about today. Not because today is supposed to be independent of the past, mind you, but rather because there have been strongly varying rates of progress across different countries. You cannot extrapolate two countries are the same today because they were the same in the past. Cultures diverge.

And nowhere did I claim everyone in the US was tainted while elsewhere everything is perfectly fine? Did you even read my comment? There's good reason I used the term "primarily" several times. This is a serious topic and so I thought about my precise wording.

Ukrainian refugees in Europe are treated better than Subsaharan African refugees. Both experience xenophobia, the latter further experiences racism. Neither group is treated remotely well.

If we want to get really specific, racism is just one specific type of xenophobia where looks alone determine membership in the in-group or various out-groups. But to claim all xenophobia is racism is misleading at best and outright wrong at worst.

Simple US-American models about racism that are broadly accurate there just cannot be applied elsewhere without adaption. Not doing that is very much "progressive" US defaultism.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

*gestures broadly at the continent of Asia*

[–] slackassassin@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Eventually they'll move on and realize that xenophobia is the cool new thing to inject into everything constantly.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's almost like race is a foundational conversation to the USA, a colonial nation.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'm Canadian so same here but we don't try to label things "white thing" or "POC thing" because that's weird

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

No, we just white wash our racist and homophobic history. Please learn about our history, it's VERY racist.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I know and I guess that's my point. Mêmes like this basically just continue a weird modern "progressive" segregation when you're all just Americans.

Edit: to expand on that, what I mean is that is this meme trying to say white skin is more the deciding factor on how someone acts vs the environment they grew up in?

[–] funnyBunny@ani.social 3 points 15 hours ago

And so do the Americans and every other colonial nation.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Or you have no sense of humor, you are supposed to celebrate differences. Not mash them down and hide them like a shameful secret

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The humour is based on saying that how someone acts is derived from the colour of their skin

edit: is it not?

edit 2: obviously Canada has a huge racism problem too, especially in regards to indigenous peoples but generally progressive people don't make jokes like this because it's honestly sort of racist

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

No, but only Americans bring it up into every random topic like we all share your interest in mild racism.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Better to talk about it than quietly perpetuate it, or not so quietly, I've never been called a mutt by another American but Europeans love to mock my "racial impurity"

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yet again, no one is saying don't talk about it.

And that's nice? I'm not from Europe, nor do I see what purpose your little rant against an entire continents worth of peoples is meant to achieve. Does engaging in racism somehow back-up your claims about racism?

[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Unfortunately it’s largely the same here down under.

First we hated the Greeks after world war 2

We love them now.

Then we hated the asians in the 80’s and 90’s

We love them now

Then we hated the Muslim in the 2000’s

We largely enjoy their company and food now.

Then we hated the Indians.

That’s still happening a lot but a large section of the population has moved on to hating the Sudanese.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, europeans' racism is so ingrained in their cultures, they dont even talk about it. Its just the way it is.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

It's only Americans trying to make fucking high fives a race thing

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 17 hours ago

No one is arguing racism doesn’t exist elsewhere in the world.

Stop acting so defensive and look at what people are actually saying is the problem here.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 16 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Pattern recognition is one of humanity's most important survival traits even though it has a ton of false positives. We just really like putting things into categories.

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago

One could almost argue that it's... very mammalian.

[–] salacious_coaster 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Human nature. We're hardwired to form tribal groups around perceived similarities, which necessarily entails excluding people who are different. Overcoming the negative results of this biological wiring is an eternal challenge for us.

Edit: downvoting me doesn't make the truth go away. This is established science. Humans will form groups compulsively, over literally anything.

https://youarenotsosmart.com/transcripts/transcript-tribal-psychology/

https://www.simplypsychology.org/social-identity-theory.html

[–] salacious_coaster 19 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Is there a term for when something seems patently racist but also you know first-hand it's objectively true, so you find yourself looking up racism in the dictionary to see if it counts?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 20 hours ago

Black people redo high fives when the honkies aren't watching

You're cancelled

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's called "racist". That is what it is called. Racist.

[–] salacious_coaster -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Not really. If the meme had said that white people were genetically inferior because we redo high fives, then it would be racist.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

“Being concerned about stereotypes”?

(Even though this one seems pretty harmless)