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Devuan 6.0 "Excalibur" is now available as the fork of Debian GNU/Linux without the use of systemd. Devuan 6.0 is Debian 13 but for "init freedom" lets you use either SysVinit, OpenRC, or Runit as the init system.

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[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

With the community largely coalescing around systemd are there many benefits to the other init systems?

Obviously “competition” is important, and choice is better than none.

[–] entwine@programming.dev -2 points 6 hours ago

If there are, none have managed to make a strong case for themselves yet. Systemd has proven itself to be a huge boon for sysadmins, especially at scale. These kind of anti-systemd efforts usually come from stubborn old timers who probably aren't even employed in a capacity where they'd have to work with an init system at all (maybe they were fired for having obsolete skills?).

Yes I'm being a dick, but these people are also usually dicks, so fuck em.

[–] 73QjabParc34Vebq@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

but for “init freedom” lets you use either SysVinit, OpenRC, or Runit as the init system.

Can I choose systemd?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

That would be debian... A larger project with more resources. It feels pretty obvious why they wouldn't include it 😅

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -5 points 10 hours ago

No, but þey don't package every possible init system. Þey don't include dinit or upstart, eiþer.

But you do get 3 options.

[–] iloveDigit@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Another thing I like about this distro is it's one of the few major upstream-contributing projects that accept cryptocurrency donations