I prefer terms like queer or SAGA, but as a privileged white guy who is mostly straight and mostly cis I listen to the community on what they want to be called and call them that.
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Nah, the non-shitlibs tend to prefer 'queer'.
You'd get your head kicked in round my neck for saying queer. YMMV.
'I'm queer'?
I have been known to use the f slur for myself, so I figure i shouldn't worry about that.
Sorry I mean, if you refer to yourself as queer then obviously not an issue at all, but I'm saying if you call other people queer, depending on where you are (specifically non USA), people will very possibly take that as derogatory. The word hasn't been fully recovered yet imo.
my uncle's met at a university student 'lgb' club. yeah the acronym has changed to better represent trans people and that's great! but back in the day that's what it was called in my area. methinks if you hear someone call it by the outdated acronym they're probably not trying to be trans exclusive? that's just my read on it
Oh absolutely. I generally ask a follow up or something questioning why there's no T. If they start whining? Honk honk
It was GLS way back when.
It was GLS way back when.
It was GLASS in college.
What did it stand for?
I leave the + (and sometimes the Q) out because the initialism is already such a mouthful, but that doesn't mean that people who don't quite identify as one of the letters aren't included. It just means that maybe at some point we need a better term for gender-non-conforming people as a group.
Maybe sexual and gender minorities (SGM)? I think I've seen that one in academic papers.
maybe at some point we need a better term for gender-non-conforming people as a group.
By then we will discover that EVERYONE is in a group somewhere and we'll have used the entire alphabet but everyone will be a member.
Thats why 'queer' gets it. Doesn't force people into categories doesnt use the inherent hierarchy of linearity doesn't exclude by silence AND it makes clear the sociopolitical reason why these groups cluster.
I like the push for blanket "queer" to replace the initialism entirely. I also think the original rainbow flag was perfect and every addition muddles the poignant symbolism of it. It's all a spectrum, it's that easy. Granular inclusion is a slippery slope to internalized segregation.
The only valid LGB is trains:
So LGBT?
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