War. War never changes.
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I’m glad they’re performing as well as they are in a war for survival, but the gamification of killing makes me very uncomfortable.
Wait 'til you learn what happens in war.
The gamification of killing is nothing new, the highest honors a country can bestow are usually for killing other people. Even without handing out little achievement trinkets, the concept of gaining honor for slaughtering your enemies goes way back.
This is war, it is how it has always been.
War. War never changes.
Obviously it's hard to complain when this stuff is being used to protect Ukrainian independence, but man this shit is terrifying. I am not looking forward to Americans or Chinese getting their hands on this tech.
I could almost guarantee that countries like the US and China have drone warfare programs that would do literal circles around everything and anything deployed in Ukraine/Russia right now.
Set aside all the ethical dubiousness of making killing humans a game with points, since that is basically what war is, the proliferation and rapid evolution of all of this tech alongside the landslide of AI development should be what actually terrifies us. The trend going forward in all "politics by lethal force" is going to involve more and more smaller and smaller vehicles designed to kill specific targets, ideally without having to worry about signals that can be jammed or wires trailing behind it, so intelligent enough to operate on it's own and make decisions and be able to operate independently for long periods of time. That should be spine-chilling to every human alive.
The game America's Army was supposed to be pretty good and a solid recruiting tool. I played just a bit, seemed great, didn't get into it. Very surprised the West, particularly America, hasn't gone nuts on gaming war.
So yeah, we'll have teenagers flying drones against one another soon enough. Better than charging Maxim machine guns by a long shot.
This is really cool, but describing it as 'going viral' doesn't make any sense.
the extension of the points-based system comes amid warnings that increasing reliance on drone warfare is not something Nato countries should follow because Russian defences against such unmanned aerial attacks have become formidable
And right, good point. NATO should definitely just ignore the most effective weapon of the era. 🙄
Russian defences against such unmanned aerial attacks have become formidable
I'm hearing we need to step up our drone game
Radiation seeking missiles are a thing, why not radiation seeking drones?
Im constantly hearing of blown up and burning russian military infrastructure, so yeah...
Also there is no realistic defending against fiber drones, so how does this even make sense?
I saw some guy Ukraine that has a Solar powered battery spinning a long stretch of barbed wire to cut the fiber optic drones so they do have some defense, I don't know how effective they are though
That's a thought! Even fishing line could snag them, doesn't even have to cut.
"You see, Ivan. Vhen zees drone take out all close target, our defenses are formidable! Because eez harder to hit inland target. Vee can speen dis to say our defenses improve over time. Fewer successful missions, Ivan! Western media eat it up! You see!"
This came out in 1992
Edit: fixed image link
Oooh! This sounds fun! Where do I sign up as a drone operator for the Ukrainian Army?
That would be hilarious if Ukraine pulled an Ender’s Game and
Spoiler
The drones were real.
"Computer game-style drone attack system" means a drone attack system in the style of a computer game. It is real. They gamified the killing.
Hint -- it is real.
Release game for free on Steam. Surprise! All war objectives complete in 3 days.
I could see this as training data for automated drone intercept systems. A swarm of 20 pilotless drones cresting a cops of trees in perfect synchronicity far faster than a chinese sync'd drone show would make any ground-pounder shit their pants.