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Who would need to press the power button to actually turn off or restart the device, right?

The setting to change this is also pretty much buried under Settings -> Special Features -> Gestures.

(Yes, I have no idea why the Assistant is in German when the phone is set to English either 🫠)

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 132 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I hope everyone who works for google gets turned into tadpoles by a witch

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 54 points 5 months ago

Or preferably by us pressing the power button

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 94 points 5 months ago

It was annoying having to change that setting so I could shut down the phone and install GrapheneOS.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Another in a long line of messing with user interface things on updates, without any prior warning to the user. And if you even get a changelog at all on the update prompt it's always just vague bullshit like, "Bug fixes and usability improvements," without explaining what those "improvements" are supposed to be.

In unrelated news, the last major update on my Moto G changed the incoming call screen from swipe up to answer, swipe down to reject to swipe left to answer, swipe right to reject. What is this, fucking Tinder now? And don't come at me about the "gesture" setting in the dialer app options, either. Yes, I am aware of it. The only options listed there are now "horizontal swipe" and "single tap to answer." Why any rational individual would want to inflict the hell that is the latter option on themselves is unknown to me.

This kind of horseshit is why boomers and old people are terrified of updates and drive us IT nerds up the wall by perpetually ignoring and dismissing them. Because when you change the user interface choices people are used to behind their backs and without warning, as far as they're concerned you just broke their device.

Cut it out.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 months ago

The best explanation I saw several years ago: Large tech companies drive change through competing individual teams and projects. So some manager pitched a half-assed idea, somehow convinced upper management to go with it, got developers to heroically implement it, and might have gotten some bonus for doing so. It doesn't matter if there was no value as long as some decision maker thinks there is (or does not care, or numbers were fudged anyway).

It is literally change for the sake of change.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago

Android is getting really terrible in general, whoever they have designing the UI is not good at their jobs. The thing I hate the most is now you have to open the side menu to open your contacts in the contacts app. It's so annoying. Add several seconds to every instance of making a call.

That dialer change was evil. I have switched to Fossify Phone now and use that as a dialer. The Fossify apps are amazing, they also have a gallery and messages app, so Google's proprietary BS isn't neccessary.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Samsung just improved my user experience by removing "silent" from the available options when pressing the volume down button for notifications/ringer β€” now I need to open a menu to press a touchscreen button a couple times, instead of being able to quickly set my phone to silent through tactile feel without looking.

thank you so much for improving my user experience for me, Samsung, this is really what I've been missing for the past decade

i really liked that swipe up to answer too

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Came default on pixel for me. Also can't remove or move the Google search bar.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 31 points 5 months ago

aahh, but GrapheneOS

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

That's been around for a while sadly, you need an alternative launcher. I'm grandfathered into Nova but most people are moving towards Lawnchair, I think.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 8 points 5 months ago

I use Lawnchair for that.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a PC program called Android Debloat, gives you a list of apps on your Android with comprehensive information about what they do, and you can blitz the shit off your phone. Tip 1: Always install a keyboard before removing Gboard. Tip 2: Removing the Google app that forces the search widget also removes Gemini usability, the news sidebar, and others. I know - what a loss

[–] waka@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Give ADBAppControl a try. It's like a GUI for adb debloating and then a bit.

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My post literally says so :D It's still a dickhead move to put the assistant in there as the default when setting up the device and hiding the option under "Gestures".

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

It’s all fuckin stupid shit but I love that it’s in German. That’s the icing on the cake.

[–] Quexotic 20 points 5 months ago

I noticed that and also noticed how they swapped out the assistant for for Gemini AI bullshit that doesn't work right so you can't tell it to turn on a light or generally to do anything and have it actually do it correctly.

Every time my phone gets an update I have to go and switch that shit back. I honestly believe they're trying to get me to buy a Linux phone.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 19 points 5 months ago

Not just new installations. It also happened on my phone when Android was updated. Thanks OP for also posting where to fix this!

[–] ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've changed it to launch Firefox and double press to turn on/off flashlight. I have a Samsung phone

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

How do you turn off your phone then?

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

On Samsung phones, you can turn off your phone via the notification bar drop down.

That being said, I still prefer to have my power button bound to...well...power options lol.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah I remember rebinding my grandparents butrons on samaung phones back to power. Fucking updates changed it to the stupid assistant and they had no idea how to turn off their phone.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

I don't use the features you listed that much, so I switched it back to powering off my phone. On my Samsung device, there was a link titled how do I turn off my phone. One of the options suggested was saying, "Bixby, turn off my phone." Nope.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

At the top of the quick settings panel there is a power button.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Going full in on the anticompetitive bullshit now? But why? Does Google have a deal with the orange Nazi against EU or what?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically it opens your default assistant. Mine is set to Dicio, so it opens that. Also, it wasn't default for me, but just an option I found while exploring settings.

[–] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It seems like they haven't changed the setting retroactively for existing users, but I just reset my Nothing Phone 1 to factory settings and then it got set by default.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

I just got a OneUI update to V7 on my Samsung and it remapped the power button.

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

why the Assistant is in German when the phone is set to English

Because Google just has no idea how to deal with multilingual people. Google Assistant's ability to understand and respond to prompts that are in either of my languages is completely unpredictable, even for the language the UI is displaying in. Another issue is that you apparently just cannot in any way control what language call screen will use to talk to a caller. Such a good feature rendered entirely useless for me because of that.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

Not just new ones. Last month my mom asked for help because she could no longer turn off her phone. I checked the settings and the power button had been assigned to the assistant.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Same. On my stock Pixel it defaulted to hold the power button for assist. Which I immediately disabled and never looked back.

This was coupled with the power menu being added as a button to the notification shade.

I imagine it was in response to Apple when they switched to having the Siri button.

On the Nothing Phones is it just a press?

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You should install GrapheneOS and never have to fuck with Gemini again...

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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 9 points 5 months ago

Since when is pressing a button a gesture.

[–] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 7 points 5 months ago

Oh, you can change that? I thought this was just how it is now.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Google and languages is its own clusterfuck anyway. To this day, I don't think it properly supports using multiple languages.

First, English YouTube titles were (often badly) auto-translated to German and I found no other option to disable it but to set my entire profile's first language to English. Then it began translating German stuff into English instead.

Is it so hart to implement an option to say "I speak both English and German perfectly well, please stop trying to accommodate some primary language"?

Bonus: Technical terms being translated one way or the other, usually without awareness of the technical, semantic context that would require a specific translation (or none at all).

Anyway, that's tangential.

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[–] Waveform@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I turn off my phone every night, so I changed that back as soon as I found out.

They also messed with the navigation bar... Before, instead of having three buttons, you could have it display three lines at the bottom that you used by swiping upward. They did away with that, so now your only options are 1) the three regular buttons that are too easy to accidentally press and take up too much screen real estate, or 2) one line that is harder to use combined with a back functionality enabled by swiping from the left ir right sides of the screen. It's not only slower to use than the three lines, but it also results in accidentally going back when trying to scroll horizontally.

They could have left an option to keep the three lines, but no, they love reminding us we don't really own the devices we pay for >:|

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If Samsung, install Good Lock and use the Navstar plugin to bring the functionality back.

That's what I did.

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[–] 01189998819991197253 5 points 5 months ago

Next step of their Always On (always spying) wet dream.

[–] malfisya@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago

Just hit it today when setting up my brother's phone. It is so stupid to do it this way.

[–] Eddyzh@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yes took me a while to figure this out. Was months ago after an update.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 5 months ago

i turned it off and set it to a swipe from the bottom corners of the screen, which makes a lot more sense

[–] Chaser@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To be honest I like this behavior. I haven't enabled the hot word, so this is a really convenient way to launch the assistant. (It doesn't has to be the google assistant btw)

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

I'm more than okay with options. I'm even okay with changing the default on new phones. I'm not so okay with changing it on existing installations without giving the option to the user.

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