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Donald Trump says he “won’t be extorted” by Democrats to reopen the government, making clear that he has no plans to negotiate as the government shutdown will soon enter its sixth week.

In an interview on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, Trump said that Democrats who are demanding an extension in health care subsidies “have lost their way” and predicted that they will eventually capitulate to Republicans who have said they won’t negotiate until they vote to reopen the government.

“I think they have to,” Trump said. “And if they don’t vote, it’s their problem.”

Trump’s comments signal that the shutdown could continue to drag on for some time as federal workers, including air traffic controllers, are set to miss additional paychecks and as there is uncertainty over whether 42 million Americans who received federal food aid will be able to access the assistance. Senate Democrats have now voted 13 times against reopening the government, insisting that they need Trump and Republicans to negotiate with them first on an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

I would relish the opportunity to shut him down

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 minutes ago

He's about to break, I guess. Didn't take long, did it?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Translation: I won't do my job

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Tonight @ 9: Clinical narcissist talks about how something relates to him instead of the 330 million people he represents.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I just thought about this but if the government is shut down are we still going to have elections tomorrow?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Yes. The states are responsible for running elections, not the federal government, so them being shut down doesn't affect tomorrow.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If any democrats cave to their Healthcare plans or any other rediculous shit the republicans have planned, I'm not voting for those democrats. The democrats needs to grow some balls, cuz I'm tired of them giving in and chuck Schumer writing strong letters.

Frankly, I doubt he even actually writes the letters. Even his toothless threat is probably empty.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 hours ago

I won't be extorted into stop being a criminal

Okay Boomer

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 hours ago

I won't be extorted into humane behavior

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 7 hours ago

he won't be extorted into making healthcare more affordable for americans.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

He prefers to be the extorter, not the extortee.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 156 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Finish the sentence, buddy. Extorted to do what exactly?

Oh that's right, reduce people's healthcare premiums by 300%

Edit: just to be completely accurate, premiums have gone up by ~300% because the subsidies ended. Bringing them back will bring that back down.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 66 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

It's really more that they're trying to "extort" him into not raising premiums. The Democrats aren't trying to strongarm reduced prices; they're trying to stop price gouging.

On a longer timeline, they're "extorting" him into not killing a few million people. And he's throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to allow anybody to get in the way of this easily preventable mass death.

Even if a person is so heartless that they don't give a shit about that and only cares about money, that's gonna lead to fewer workers, fewer purchasers of goods and services, and less free time to enjoy purchases. So even the inhuman sludge monsters of capitalism should see that this is gonna be bad for business and be against this. There's literally zero benefit to doing this if you look beyond the current financial quarter unless your goal is to destroy the country and hurt people.

It's like shitting diarrhea all over the birthday cake so it can all be yours, but it's your own fucking birthday party. The art of the deal.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 15 hours ago

Unfortunately, capitalism demands that MY employees have no free time, to keep the quarterly numbers up, but everyone else's employees need to have free time, to spend money.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

I mean the Trump admin and their backers are pretty clearly oligarchic. I would argue that oligarchy is one of the later states of capitalism, but ultimately they don't care about economic spending; they care about maintaining or further consolidating their monopolies and monopsonies. Amazon doesn't care that their profits will fall, they care that they are the only middleman between America and the broader world, whether that be through goods or the internet. It doesn't matter if their workers can't afford their stuff; the goal is to be the only source, where their workers have no choice but to afford it. "That's not how economies work!" OK nobody said these people were sane, just that this is what they think.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry to be that guy. But they're not wanting to reduce premiums by 300%. That would make premiums -200% of what they were before. They want to reverse the increase of 300%. Which is actually a reduction of 75%.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 12 hours ago

They went up by 300% so re-enabling the subsidies would reduce it back to 0.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

And releasing the Epstein files

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 49 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, the guy that half of the voting populace were conned into thinking he’s good at making deals is refusing to make any kind of deal whatsoever?

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 41 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

He doesn't make deals he just cries and threatens people until he gets his way, he's a fucking hack and I'm really beginning to absolutely abhor anyone who could have possibly voted for this absolute toxic garbage dump of a "person"

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

All the trump bumper stickers are looking like some tempting targets these days. If I hadn't spent the last 8 years getting my life together I'd probably already be in prison.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

if you're just beginning to abhor them, you have not been paying nearly enough attention.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 4 points 11 hours ago

Oh I have, I'm just generally a decent person, I know people get confused, I know there is so much disinformation out there, news agencies you used to be able to trust are pushing propaganda, as much as I want to I really can't fault people for getting lost in the massive barrage of bullshit. That said, it was clear who this man was a looooong time ago.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, he’s never made deals despite him trying label himself a great dealmaker. Anyone that voted for him for his dealmaking prowess hasn’t paid attention for the last 60 or so years. He’s always just used the privilege that he was born into to bully people.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 71 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

1 in 8 people are about to be shunted out of assistance and in to the worst inflated grocery market Ive seen in my lifetime. You know what happens when people are hungey? They get desperate.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

Desperate enough to riot and he is counting on it.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 26 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I think a lot of people here think that riots will be some sort of end game that will remove Trump when it will actually be the next step in his plan to enact martial law and cancel elections.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

they do not need an excuse, if they want martial law they will invent a reason like they did the last bunch of times. do not advocate for inaction

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago

I agree they will invent a reason. I think this is them inventing a reason. I agree also that it shouldn't be an argument for inaction. If it doesn't happen over this it'll happen over something else. It might as well be this. The more they can do whatever they want the worse things get.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Of course they need an excuse. They may have the house and supreme court in their pocket but there's still the army and the rest of the world. If they would try to enact martial law out of nowhere the military leadership may simply refuse to enforce it and if they do, other countries will de-invest from US real quick and may even put some sanctions on the government.

Also, I'm not saying people shouldn't do anything. I'm just saying consequences of some actions will be different than they imagine.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

the last excuse was some nobody got car jacked, and instituted the lockdown of two cities. they do not need an excuse when they can manufacture one. the military leadership has not stepped in, and when there was a coup, they were also awol from their duties, waiting to see how things shook out. And currently other countries are scrambling to divest from the US real quick. the rest of the world will not help us.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 7 points 12 hours ago
[–] zaugofficial@lemmings.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Riots are easily controlled.

Assassins are not.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

He is expanding his bunker and is driven everywhere in one of the most armored limos on the planet.

Add on only doing indoors events (if he does any at all) and, yeah, assassins are pretty controlled.

Maybe some of the rank and file will get got but nobody cares about them. See: The Future Mrs vance's dead ex husband.

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[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 56 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

I wonder if the US Congress will ever reconvene, at least in its current form.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

If it messes with Congress' flights or Thanksgiving plans they'll open it back up right away. Same as the sequestration bullshit in 2012.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Sure it will. Economic fallout from no govt money being spent and also air travel being seriously curtailed due to ATC shortages will open things up really quick, relatively.

[–] henfredemars 47 points 15 hours ago

Perhaps not. They might have to swear in the new Democrat they're currently blocking for a month now, which could possibly lead to the release of some iteration of the Epstein files.

[–] philophilsaurus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

Something something The American Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

[–] ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social 25 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

This is a very common theme in both successful and unsuccessful attempts at totalitarian takeovers. Essentially blaming the opposition for specific issues/events, followed by a crackdown, then a "restructuring" (for managed opposition e.g. Zimbabwe's Tsvangirai) or completely outlawing the existence of such parties (Greece under Metaxas). I'm very concerned about the near future. If the Republicans (this is bigger than Trump) are successful in their final push for an authoritarian state, it will result in the death and suffering of billions, guaranteed.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

Ignoring the demands of the masses and having a lavish lifestyle while everyone else is starving.

This guy is on track for pulling a Louis XVI.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

RIP USA the rate things are going. Good luck brothers, sisters and everyone in-between.

[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 29 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Theydies and gentlethem. Kings and Queens and In-Betweens.

But yeah, a lot of people are gonna die, and I'm not sure whether that's from resistance to this or punishment for not bowing hard enough fast enough.

We had one black president and a third of the country lost their fucking minds, put a fascist in charge, and nuked our standing on the world stage now and forevermore. Hard times are coming, and that third deserves worse than they'll get, another third won't realize what's happened for weeks, and the final third will be the "alarmists" saying I fucking told you so.

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