Since when has con ever been a dump stat?
this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2025
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DND stats are weird. Only con gets more impactful as you level. Imagine if strength was +damage and carry per level. 18 strength at first level is +3 damage, but fourth level is +12. That might be the path to reinventing Pathfinder, though.
I'll also say, playing games that don't have the six stats, or even character attributes at all was really refreshing. Just skills worked fine.
Imagine if strength was +damage and carry per level.
With extra attack it is.
Kind of. You only get one extra attack for most classes (and most games, since a minority reach level 11 and also have a class with third attack).
It would be interesting if con only got you an HP bonus at first, fifth, and sometimes 11th level.
What's a just skills ttrpg?
Fate is the one that comes to mind. Just skills. Your big brawler dude might be like
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- Fight: 4
- Provoke, Rapport: 3
- Will, Athletics, Notice: 2
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- High Concept: King of the Ring Fighter
- Trouble: Always a Show Off
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- Stunts and backgrounds: not going to make them up now but they add more depth
You don't need to know this guy has exactly 8 or 10 intelligence, or whatever.
Con is my irl dump stat… along with str, dex, wis, and cha.
Same but also INT and hidden luck stat
Int builds for life!
I don't need CON if I nuke them from orbit.
You can not push a button to launch a nuke if they disable your hand!
It is, the Only way, to be sure.
Counterpoint:
I read this as Rincewind like from discworld, and I was going to say he had a great con score. Lots of cardio.
Yeah Rincewind's dump stat was wisdom.
Raistlin has a great Con score, it's just on Caramon's character sheet.
If you can't make your own saves, make sure you keep a big musclehead around to make them for you.
That's honestly a great way of thinking about it. My character can open any lock, charm any NPC, withstand any attack and deal incredible amounts of damage, just by asking a buddy to do it for them. Friendship is OP.
... The real OPness was the friends we made along the way?
I approve.
<check my username>
Oh hey! I had not gotten the connection until I googled it now.