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Seriously, they are both former military, my dad was in for like 30 years, how do they like the drunk secretary? I get that he saw combat, but being in combat doesn't automatically make you qualified for... well anything except therapy and medical care.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago

they're selfish and dumb and choose to be ignorant

simple as that. they might be nice people in some respects, but the above still holds true

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Decades of propaganda

  2. I'm not trying to insult here, but your parents aren't that smart. One of mine fell for it too.

Bottom line is if you fall for extremely obvious propaganda you are not, and never were, very intelligent.

[–] trslim@pawb.social 1 points 53 minutes ago

I don't think they aren't smart in a logical sense, I think its more of a lack of critical thinking and a focus on short term gains (which i would argue aren't even that good lol)

[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago

It's easy to win over weak people.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 10 hours ago

Party of suckers and losers.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 22 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I've got a former military buddy who is all about Pete because "he's not gonna let the fatties and the faggots fuck up our military anymore."

Nevermind that the navy has been called gay since their inception, or that muhreens have zero self discipline outside of a military situation, or that the air force has run more drug than most cartels, it's the "fatties and faggots" that are the problem.

I always knew my buddy was dumb, but it took that conversation for me to figure out that it went all the way down to the core of who he was as a person.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, lot of bigots are self aware enough to try to hide their hatred and point to other things when it comes to making what they support more palatable to those who might not be. They aren't complete idiots like some immediately assume which is why they have been underestimated by the opposite side and gained such huge traction and seen increasing success.

Even the dumb ones don't try to show the full extent of the bigotry, since they know there are still some in society who resist such ideologies despite growing embracement of it.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I've got a couple dumb friends/colleagues too but just change the subject when they mention politics

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Situational sexuality has assured that every navy has been pretty gay (that is, sexually adaptable) since the inception of maritime travel.

[–] zaugofficial@lemmings.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Probably because he won't raise their taxes or the taxes of our oppressors.

It's all about the money, and money brings out the worst in people.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

They watched him on FOXnews, thought he was "cute", about like a Sajak or a Kardashian. So why not put him in charge of the world's most lethal military?

[–] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

easy. he’s a white republican man.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 22 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

Your parents are bad people

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

Well, bad the way Edmund Povensie was bad while under the guile of the White Witch, or the way the Little Mermaid was bad (i.e. poor ) at seeing through the sea hag's hard sell.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Not bad per se, more very misinformed and very influenced dare I say manipulated, just sad yeah

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don’t make a distinction between the two. If you make a mistake, you made a mistake. If you keep making mistakes, and never learn from them, and insist that you don’t make mistakes then you are a bad person.

These are not children without life experience, they are adults who have seen, and experienced, and learned, and been corrected, and have still chosen evil.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I mean how does theoreticallyconservative small government folk support a real estate trust fund baby who openly take bribes, is building himself a castle, and floods the streets with masked, unmarked, paramilitary. Oh and constantly breaks the laws of the land put out by the forefathers along with a whole ton of other laws?

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 14 hours ago

I mean they can choose to not believe that but trump has them make viral videos of his goon squad. Sure its edited to make them look tough I guess but its hard to disbelieve they are there and maybe just maybe look at the first person cell phone videos that are all around showing how aweful they are.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Because he's ever so pretty?

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago

Sorry to tell you this but the racism really resonated with them.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honest answer, as someone in the military:

A LOT of military people lament how "soft" the military has become, and someone coming down on beards, fat, etc, as well as being up front with what the military is for (e.g. Department of War), scratches a whiny itch they've always had. Because every old salty sailor and sandy equivalent feels like they came from the Old Guard.

I came from the Old Guard that my peers are nostalgic about. It was terrible and unnecessarily cruel. It was inefficient and left new people floundering instead of supported. The whole thing feels like a cycle of abuse.

But back to the point, they don't care if he's underqualified, makes bad and inexperienced military decisions, or has a host of DUIs ("who doesn't?"). They only care that he's calling generals fat to their faces and getting rid of beard ememptions.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's funny is that nobody alive today was alive and in the military for any major conflict that we were actually victorious in, so what "good old days" are these geezers even pining for? The days where we lost a bunch of soldiers in Vietnam and the ones who survived came back with PTSD and drug addictions?

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

The good old days where the people in charge could get away with anything, that's what it comes down to.

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This comment section is comically unhinged and batshit crazy that it's a good reminder that this platform is infested by terminally online idiots who I should interact less with. Welp time to go touch some grass.

[–] zaugofficial@lemmings.world 4 points 8 hours ago

It's weird how this is the thread that would you think that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

Care to provide any specific examples?

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 142 points 1 day ago

Are they white? Do they have an aversion to non-white people? Do they make enough money to materially benefit from the Trump era tax policies? Yes to any 2 and you’ve got an answer, no to all 3 and I’m as stumped as you are.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The comments here are wild. So much judgement about people we literally know one single thing about.

There should really only be one answer to this question: "I dunno. Why don't you ask them?"

Just because your parents like some guy that they've never met doesnt mean they are evil, sociopathic, racist monsters. The most likely explaination is that they got walked down the right wing media rabbithole by some network of acquaintences, and now they are trapped in a fairy tale depiction of the world designed to appeal to their baser emotions.

People believe in bigfoot and the flat earth. Why? Mostly because they feel lonely and powerless, and want to feel like they are part of a group that is united in their knowledge of The Truth.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 19 hours ago

Most reasonable answer. Propaganda is insidious. It is subtle, it can latch onto anything. It could be racism, that's one thing sure. It could be that they wanted lower taxes and over time it slowly convinced them it was all of the others. It could be anything. To assume like this, well, it's exactly why the right has so much just reasoning when saying we're quick to throw the racism card. Because, well just look at this thread.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 11 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yours is the best answer but my kneejerk gut feeling is:

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Edit: The 'you' in this image refers to OP's parents.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Right, and those who supported Hitler were just poor misinformed good people.

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I think their just trapped in a bubble of bad info and are influenced by racism subconsciously. I KNOW my parents aren't bad people, but they sure as hell arent talking like good people or even well thought-out people.

I guess I just thought my parents were smarter, that they could see through this admins BS. They seriously claim that Trump is doing much better than Biden, but I talk to everyone I know, and they are all having money problems, food insecurity and housing problems, all being made worse under Trump.

I think my parents are just selfish. And it breaks my heart that they are betraying everything I thought I learned from them. I guess maybe they didnt influence me as much as I thought.

It was kind of funny though, because my husband was like, "Now you know how I feel." At least they are a-okay with me and my husband, though, at this rate, I'm worried that wont be the case in a couple years.

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[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 points 21 hours ago

30 years in the military and a shitty person? Man that is so weird, how could it be?

[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago

Your parents might lack empathy and are cruel, therefore they are looking for other cruel people to confirm their cruel behavior: The cruelty is the point

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/

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