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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

Perfect, embroider it on a pillow.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why are the robots creating art and the humans packing boxes?

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Capitalism; most of the time art isn't profitable, and if it is, the profit goes to the artist, not to shareholders. So if we make bots for it, we can force everyone to do wage labor in shit conditions.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Art is very profitable for the rich and elite, in terms of laundering money.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 20 hours ago

Underrated comment.

[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Because creating art is easier than packing boxes.

You have to start somewhere.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm just pointing this out, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will....

We have machines to do the laundry and dishes for us already. We just have to set them up (put stuff in them) and they do the job for us.

When was the last time you saw someone get out the washing board?

[–] Mesophar@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

That still requires gathering the dirty items together, loading/unloading, keeping track of when it is full/time to run. People saying this mean they want a robot like Rosie from the Jetsons to take care of that sort of housekeeping, not for a machine that makes the task easier to do themself.

Edit: to be clear, I don't think a washer machine or dishwasher is a hassle and problem that needs solving, but that doesn't take away from the message of "AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago

That still requires gathering the dirty items together, loading/unloading, keeping track of when it is full/time to run.

And I still need to prompt the AI, review the images presented, copy/paste them, possibly apply further manipulations to suit my needs.

Like, yes. Your life isn't going to be 100% on autopilot for anything except bill pay.

that doesn’t take away from the message of “AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow”

I think it outlines the raw limits of any kind of automation. You can make imperfect trades between human labor and appliances. But there's always a limit that a tool can do without supervision relative to what a cognizant human can perform.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world -5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Edit: to be clear, I don’t think a washer machine or dishwasher is a hassle and problem that needs solving, but that doesn’t take away from the message of “AI should help make life easier, not replace the creative outlets additional free time should allow”

You are a dreamer, we live in the real world with limited resources, and here everything will be hard without hope, and robots will replace people, not help them.

Utopia is not possible, only dystopia is possible.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

okay doomer

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca -1 points 21 hours ago

I would agree that's what people mean, but they're completely overlooking that the problem has already been recognised, and addressed, with a solution that's been around for decades.

It's just that people take these modern amenities for granted, so they see them as part of the burden of doing the dishes or doing laundry, rather than relieving the burden of doing those things.

We can load up the dish washer and sit on our duff watching YouTube while a machine does the hard work. Then we just have to suffer through putting the dishes where we want them to go.

This is textbook "first world problems". AI is only expected to solve these first world problems. By definition, these problems are less actually problems that need solving, and more inconveniences that we perceive as problems.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (6 children)

We've had the software to automate loading and unloading the dishwasher for a long time now.

Making the hardware reliable and affordable is what stands between us and fully automated household chores.

My robot vacuum is affordable but gets stuck on things often enough that I just rather vacuum manually once a week instead of daily rescue missions.

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 1 day ago

Having lived without a dishwasher for many years, I'm never complaining about loading/unloading the dishwasher. From starting the kettle to finishing a pour over is more than enough time to unload.

And never again having to schlep clothes to the laundromat because we have laundry in our home? Likewise, I'm not going to complain. The only reason laundry takes real effort is when we opt to use the clothesline instead of the dryer.

Not everyone has a dishwasher, washing machine, and clothes dryer, so I absolutely recognize that I'm very fortunate here. And the crazy thing is, these devices aren't even particularly expensive, especially since they can be had used


I think a big reason folks don't have them is the installation+room required. Which probably says something about landlords and the general cost per area of housing.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, we already have a laundry machine to do the laundry and a dishwasher to do the dishes.

Meanwhile, I can't draw for shit. So I can understand - at least around the edges - why "Please draw me a picture of a tiger with a boner and a big grin standing upright in a t-shirt that says Stripe Right For A Good Time" has a certain naive appeal.

I just don't know if I enjoy having my water bill doubled in order to pay for it.

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like some people in this thread are thinking of her statement as specifically about dish washing and laundry, art and writing. But to me, she was commenting more generally about tedious chore-type activities versus fun, creative activities.

Wouldn't you rather have a robot / AI do the not-fun things, so you can focus on the fun things? You could spend time learning to draw, for example, if you want to. if you also want the AI to draw for you, fine but know that many do not.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

she was commenting more generally about tedious chore-type activities versus fun, creative activities.

No, I get that. I just find that much of the tedious work has already been automated about as far as is practical. Everything afterwards requires the kind of manual dexterity and human cognition to accomplish that machines have never done well.

I'll spot you that we're talking about multiple trillions of dollars in national investments. And that could be going to high speed rail lines and supersonic jets. It could be going to massive solar/wind farms and upgraded drainage/wastewater recycling. It could be going to nuclear power for ecological preservation and nationalized health care.

That's not "automation" in the household sense. But all of these investments would take industrial infrastructure to leverage economies of scale and meaningfully improve the quality of life of hundreds of millions of people by saving them time and personal expenses. If you care about saving people's time from tedium, there's improvements we could make. But they aren't consumer household improvements so much as civil engineering projects.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world -2 points 21 hours ago

Damn, this is so funny I just can't...

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