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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Checked back on the smoldering dumpster fire that is Framework today.

Linux Community Ambassadors Tommi and Fraxinas have jumped ship, sneering the company's fash turn on the way out.

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

fyi over the last couple of days firefox added perplexity as search engine, must have been as an update

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More flaming dog poop appeared on my doorstep, in the form of this article published in VentureBeat. VB appears to be an online magazine for publishing silicon valley propaganda, focused on boosting startups, so it's no surprise that they'd publish this drivel sent in by some guy trying to parlay prompting into writing.

Point:

Apple argues that LRMs must not be able to think; instead, they just perform pattern-matching. The evidence they provided is that LRMs with chain-of-thought (CoT) reasoning are unable to carry on the calculation using a predefined algorithm as the p,roblem grows.

Counterpoint, by the author:

This is a fundamentally flawed argument. If you ask a human who already knows the algorithm for solving the Tower-of-Hanoi problem to solve a Tower-of-Hanoi problem with twenty discs, for instance, he or she would almost certainly fail to do so. By that logic, we must conclude that humans cannot think either.

As someone who already knows the algorithm for solving the ToH problem, I wouldn't "fail" at solving the one with twenty discs so much as I'd know that the algorithm is exponential in the number of discs and you'd need 2^20 - 1 (1048575) steps to do it, and refuse to indulge your shit reasoning.

However, this argument only points to the idea that there is no evidence that LRMs cannot think.

Argument proven stupid, so we're back to square one on this, buddy.

This alone certainly does not mean that LRMs can think — just that we cannot be sure they don’t.

Ah yes, some of my favorite GOP turns of phrases, "no unknown unknowns" + "big if true".

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago

This is a fundamentally flawed argument. If you ask a human who already knows the algorithm for solving the Tower-of-Hanoi problem to solve a Tower-of-Hanoi problem with twenty discs, for instance, he or she would almost certainly fail to do so. By that logic, we must conclude that humans cannot think either.

"I don't understand recursion" energy

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

Hey it's the character.ai guy, a.k.a. first confirmed AI assisted kid suicide guy.

I do not believe G-d puts people in the wrong bodies.

Shazeer also said people who criticized the removal of the AI Principles were anti-Semitic.

Kind of feel the transphobia is barely scratching the surface of all the things wrong with this person.

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[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

This is a joke, right?

E: my enshittified brain thought that this was some kind of AI enabled smart ring that also told the time. This is kinda fun actually, tho I would never get one

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Guys, the reason we don't see working AI out in the world is because all the "frontier AI labs" are keeping the good stuff for themselves!! It's totally not that this shit doesn't work

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5Zq9FKfYzcxcwCoRJ/ai-hasn-t-seen-widespread-adoption-because-the-labs-are

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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

Found a high quality sneer of OpenAI from Los Angeles Review of Books: Literature Is Not a Vibe: On ChatGPT and the Humanities

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