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Here is what you should do, Brianna:
Delete your twitter and never post about trans issues again. When you have been so consistently wrong about about something for such a long time, it is the best thing for everyone to simply accept that you shouldn't be part of the conversation anymore rather than trying to claw your way back into it.
(I know she isn't actually reading.)
I honestly don't understand how you can be conservative LGBTQ+. You existence is progressive.
"I thought if I let the leopards eat a little of my face they wouldn't take it all."
Ah, Brianna Wu. Theres a name Ive not heard in a while. Always looking to grift off something or other for her own gain. I wonder what she needs money for this time...
Exactly. My dislike of her has zero to do with her being a trans woman.
I just replied to another comment with this but I'll put it as a top level comment here because I think it's important.
I want MORE right wing idiots to realize they're wrong and join our camp. The more the better. Remember, these people are still our neighbors, they still exist and we will have to interact with them outside our homes. I want more reasonable people, so when we do have converts, please receive them with open arms.
Okay, you were a huge idiot, but welcome to sanity part 1. Of they're big enough to realize they were wrong (and they've had a LOT of brainwashing, it takes a lot for them to snap out of the crazy) we should be big enough to say bygones.
I understand the want for revenge because they were "the enemy". I understand, they were a huge asshole and now we have to play nice with them? That doesn't sound fair! But I think we have to, we want to welcome more idiots into sanity and reason. The less idiots out there, the better. And for what it's worth, there are people that listen to her, if they can now be on the side of reason, they can pull a lot more people with them.
If we don't we'll make it harder for people to move out of the right wing camp, and I want much much less people in the right wing camp
Part of the problem is, this is not the first time this assault on minorities has happened; and many of the people who voted for Trump were previously thought of as allies who were reformed.
We can even scare our own allies by “making nice” with villains. I remember hearing out a very betrayed voter whose core issue of dismay was hearing Gavin Newsom get cowed by Joe Rogan into saying supporting Trans people was a mistake.
People like Joe Rogan have HURT them. I want you to picture having someone that ruined your life, and picture what it’s like to have them sleeping in your home, based on nothing more than “Hey, bud. We’re good now, right?”
A good compromise is never just halfway between two policies. It requires understanding both perspectives and addressing their actual problems. So the compromise here would be trans rights for trans people, and free mental health care for anti-trans people.
The Trans Athlete debate also never seems to address the fact that it's all unfair from the get go. Being born to a poor family? Being born with a birth defect? Being born into an unsupportive family/community? Being born at the wrong time of year?
It also shouldn't matter how well someone does in sports. No athlete is using their skills in the work place and students shouldn't need athletics scholarships to pay for school. It should just be for fun with nothing on the line.
What The hell are extreme Position on "trans people" that come from trans people themselves? Such extreme stuff like "just let everyone life the way they want and dont be fucking dick?"
I seriously have no fucking clue what she could mean that might be somewhat controversial. The only thing I could think of is stuff like "chop everyone's dick off" but that's more like extreme feminism and not just "extreme trans".
Wu is just the latest poster child for Reactionary Uncle Tom washouts. There's internet graveyards full of would-be pundits and ex-liberal turncoats who realized far too late that The Log Cabin Republicans and Blacks for Trump weren't going to protect them when fascists came knocking.
The thing you need to recognize about Wu - more than anything else - is that she comes from money. Look at my Porsche collection money. She's reactionary because that's where she eats. And pivoting her identity as a Trans Woman into an income stream as a reactionary poster is just the path failkids of the GenZ+ generations are trained into.
Brianna Wu is a product of her material conditions. In a better world, she wouldn't be able to horde wealth at her neighbors' expense. And she wouldn't have an economic incentive to fuck over her Trans peers in hopes of maintaining her precarious position among the wealthy elites.
Though I agree with you, i think there has to be a pragmatic aspect to this
I want MORE right wing idiots to realize they're wrong and join our camp. The more the better. Remember, these people are still our neighbors, they still exist and we will have to interact with them outside our homes. I want more reasonable people, so when we do have converts, please receive them with open arms.
Okay, you were a huge idiot, but welcome to sanity part 1. Of they're big enough to realize they were wrong (and they've had a LOT of brainwashing, it takes a lot for them to snap out of the crazy) we should be big enough to say bygones.
If we don't we'll make it harder for people to move out of the right wing camp, and I want muchuch less people in the right wing camp
I want MORE right wing idiots to realize they’re wrong and join our camp.
I don't think she's a "right wing idiot" or that she's seriously joining anyone's camp. She's just an influencer trying to pull a new source of revenue.
Okay, you were a huge idiot
She was wrong, certainly. But the play - sucking up to right-wing oligarchs in hopes of a six or seven digit payday down the line - wasn't stupid. It was a calculated risk that failed to pay out.
If we don’t we’ll make it harder for people to move out of the right wing camp, and I want muchuch less people in the right wing camp
This isn't an issue of physical camps. She's not joining a military and putting on a uniform. She's fishing for dupes to send her money, because her old income streams have dried up.
This is less "winning someone over to a camp" and more "trying to bribe an unreliable mercenary".
NGL I thought this was a memepost; I never expected even a crumb of self reflection from that hack.
The problem with compromising for a “middle ground” is that, when the right decide to re-litigate the issue (if they ever stop litigating to begin with), your starting position is now that middle ground. Compromising for a middle ground simply moves the Overton window to the right.
Yeah, I have been so dissappointed after her turn in the past few years. Like WTF was she even thinking was going to happen. These assholes are not ever going to be anything but assholes.
once again ignoring entirely that trans masc people exist and we are impacted by the bullshit she spouts as well. what impacts one of us affects all of us, and I am not your fucking sister.
What a pathetic person :c
I remember a long time ago someone told me “you can’t reason with crazy.” These people are living in a completely unrealistic universe and do not have their wits about them. You can call them evil or whatever, but even so, they should be getting help from a medical professional because whatever is going on with these people is completely toxic, unhealthy, and destructive, even for themselves. I’ve pretty much written off anyone who still supports this administration a couple of years ago, as any reasonable person has already abandoned Trump and anyone else he associates with.
Not my sister.
Is Brianna wu grifting to the left because she realizes there isn't a place for her on the right anymore? I'm a bit too cynical to believe this is legitimate since the right has been like this for quite a while. Just with the trump admin the center right position on the trans movement is not a profitable option for pundits anymore
If this truly is a come to Jesus moment, I'll believe it if she can back it up over time
I think a lot of the pickme's out there are like the rats on a doomed ship. They are sensing the coming shift before anyone else because they have less to lose and more to gain from becoming early adopters of the new "I was fooled" narrative that is going to absolutely sweep the right after Trump finally keels over.
There will be no successor, at least not of equal power and leadership who can hold Trump's infinity stone of stupidity, his base of fanatical loyalists who cling to his fetid authenticity like ticks on the back of a deer with spongiform encephalitis.
So when the pendulum of social discourse swings the other way, it will be like magic... every single Trump die-hard and zionist riding on the fact that their positions can hide behind the far worse things going on, will have up and just disappeared like farts in the wind. It will be a miracle, it will be like every nazi and trump sycophant just evaporated back into the shadows, and the grifters will have to suddenly race back into the overton window to capitalize on this temporary change in wind direction.
I hope you’re right!
The long arc of history shows humanity IS progressing, the line goes up and down, and we're definitely experiencing a "down" at the moment, but over the large scale course we're nowhere close to where we came from. We are astonishingly lucky that we weren't born during the 99% of our history that was just brutal survival and small groups of families clinging to existence, being killed by rivals or eaten by horrific monsters in the darkness, or the innumerably vast number of farmers and peasants who had to basically take into account how many of their families would be murdered, raped or starved to death by roving brigands and raiders.
Trumps and the people like him rise from time to time and spit in our faces, but they are all mortal and all pass. Small groups take the best lessons forward because those lessons work and lead to better outcomes. A new dawn shines on the survivors and those who can adapt.
My attitude after the last election is trust no republican, they'll go back the second they can while crying to the left when they're being mistreated by their own.
"You know, I'm starting to think these ethnicity-critical Nazis can't be reasoned with."
"I am starting to feel like these face-eating leopards I allied with are eyeing my face with increasing hunger."
Goldwater was absolute dogwater but he was right about republicans in 1981…
“On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs."
"Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
This is why advocating for "finding middle ground", or centrism, or this repackaged warmed over Abundance crap is so toxic.
You can't match these people half way. you have to beat them
Political centrism works well in a staunch democracy with a certain Overton window. As soon as these Alt-Righters have influence in a country, it doesn't work anymore.
First off, Brianna Wu is not my sister or comrade, so she can write that down.
In a negotiation its important to ask for more than you want. Compromise is what you reach during negotiations. If you start your negotiations from a pre-compromised position, you're just ceding ground to the other side.
Support the extremists. Support those who go too far and ask too much, as that's the only way to reach a fair and reasonable compromise.
Congrats, you have a better grasp of negotiation than a 6-figure-salary consultant contracted to the DNC.
It’s sad she’s so close but still on ‘I want a middle ground on these issues’ really? Like…. She is okay with a little disrespect? A little discrimination?
She is desperate for a place that she can be considered "one of the good ones" with the implicit idea of "there are bad ones and they deserve to be treated worse than the good ones". She doesn't understand that the world builds rules on foundational ideas that are just straw men dressed in stereotypes - no one bothers with distinction.
"The problem is, they are getting crazier and crazier."
They're not, they just don't feel the need to hide those parts of their goals any more, and you should have listened to us when we warned you about those goals.
And you should be listening to us now about their future goals.
Even after all of that, she still doesn't get it:
I think many of our most extreme ideas are bad. But theirs are worse.
The problem is that "our" (using quotes as I'm only progressive, not LGBTQ+) most extreme ideas are only held by a minority of progressive people, and meanwhile the things she thinks are their "most extreme ideas" are the ones that she saw personally, while interacting with people who don't mind interacting with a trans-woman. Those aren't their "most extreme ideas." They're their mainstream ideas.
She's comparing our most extreme ideas against their mainstream ideas.
I would love to know what those extreme left ideas that are bad are. Like 99% of progressive ideas boil down to "stop treating other people like shit."
