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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

Die.

That's it. That's the plan.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Because their plan is take away your healthcare plans and make you pay three times as much to get even less! And then, when it's time to need your plan, they are going to let them just drop you instead and/or delay any possible care until you die and they keep all the money you give them. Suckers!!!!

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Not having a Healthcare plan is their plan.

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They do have a plan: pay or die.

So many things under capitalism are like that. Food, shelter, water, healthcare. Probably more.

It's pretty horrible that so many life or death services are locked behind a paywall.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

"You wouldn't know my health care plan. It lives in Canada."

Except even the Canadian system is better.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 10 hours ago

But Canadian conservatives have been whittling away at it for decades.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 hours ago

Don't be eager. They'll tell you in about two weeks.

[–] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I'm rewatching Veep and sometimes I really don't think it's a satire

[–] Heikki2@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Trump literally got elected claiming to have concepts of a plan. No doubt the rubes believe them

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The sad reality is that most of the people who make up Trump's base will suffer massively, yet willingly if it means hurting the people they don't like.

And the people they don't like are largely media constructs, strawmen made of racial stereotypes and legions of "wellfare queens" who they've been led to believe are robbing them blind. They literally have made an emotional connection between food assistance, medical healthcare, trans people, illegal aliens and the rising cost of groceries.

Red states are going to suffer the most right now and many, many people are going to die, many of them will have been Trump supporters.

[–] Heikki2@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Everytime I read there is a plan but it's a secret makes me think of this:

She goes to another school

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Hah, that made me snort. Cd-i.

[–] frustrated@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Their plan is the same as it ever was. Rich people can afford the best care. Everyone else can die. This plan is not super marketable so that is why they wont make this more transparent.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Remember when Republicans complained about the ACA for years, then got control and brought a healthcare plan to the table that was so bad John McCain famously voted it down? Then, instead of reworking it and trying again, they just gave the fuck up? Kind of like how they did with infrastructure before Biden stepped in and got that done immediately?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 23 hours ago

Is it the same as what they had in 2018?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

They never have told us what it is and they never will tell us what it is because their healthcare plan is for you to die in the street like the trash they see you as.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooohhh I know this one!

This must be the same as that one they had like 7 years ago that would be ready in two weeks and would be the best healthcare plan ever?

And then crickets?

Just in case if anyone is still in doubt: there is no healthcare plan. Not beyond "get sick and become a slave or die"

Almost 20 years ago at this point even.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just like the last time Trump was in office. "Repeal and replace" "With what?" "After we repeal, we'll tell you"

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

No build. Only destroy.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Concepts of a plan

Republicans have nothing beyond the argumentative skills of 5 year olds trying to avoid eating their vegetables

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I think its pretty clear by now that repuglicans lie more than your average politician

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 13 points 1 day ago
[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

Oooh oooh, I've seen this one!

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, the plan is that you pay for insurance your whole life, and then just die owing large amounts of money so they can take everything you ever had away from your kids.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They get health care, we don't. That's the plan. It's always been the plan.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Repeal and go f🇺🇸ck yourself —GOP

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago

Everyone the plan is quite obvious! Embrace nurgle! Once we all follow American leadership to recieve his blessing and reach peak body like the plague father we will know true happiness.

[–] collar@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They haven’t had a health plan in more than a decade. Trump has claimed since he came down the escalator he’d be releasing his health plan in “two weeks.” The plan is repeal Obamacare. That’s the only plan.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

The Republican healthcare plan was Obamacare. That's what it was once it was clear something had going to change. The Dems let the Republicans basically gut and change whatever they wanted. The insurance industry wrote the damned thing.

That's why there's no other plan, and they never repeal it, we already have their plan.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 10 hours ago

Man, why isn't there a version of this meme with Musk's face and "Five Years"

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've been trying to tell us they have this secret plan since the ACA passed in 2010. Fifteen years of swearing up and down that it's some great plan that will help everyone, maybe including poor people if they think it'll help convince anyone but definitely including insurance companies and pharmaceutical giants.

The problem is, the ACA was already their idea. The 2006 Massachusetts law that he proposed and signed into law as governor was an early version of Obamacare, including the Individual Mandate and a penalty for businesses that didn't provide insurance to their employees. It was a stopgap measure to overhaul the system so that patients wouldn't use the ER for health care and run up huge unpaid bills when they could just pay for the care from the correct provider; but unintentionally, it also got 98% of Massachusetts residents insured.

But by the time Romney started campaigning for president in 2012, the GOP had already started moving dramatically to the right, to the point where this lukewarm, milquetoast excuse for a solution was seen as radical. And since the GOP can't risk doing something that will reduce their voters' hardship (because paradoxically then they might stop voting for them), they are terrified of coming up with anything that might actually help.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And the Romney plan was based on the Republican counter offer when Bill Clinton was trying to get universal health care passed. Clinton rejected it as not good enough.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

Clinton rejected it as not good enough.

And Hillary's plan was a convoluted, compromised, unworkable mess. She took universal healthcare off the table as soon as she started.

So we got nothing from that half-assed effort, which was exactly what the predatory for-profit health-demial industry wanted. Fuck Republicans and fuck centrists.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And he was right. Still, I wonder how things would've been different had Clinton accepted the counteroffer and tried to iterate on it afterwards. The 2004-and-beyond GOP playbook has been to keep the Republican base spiked with anxiety and fear, blame Democrats for it, and use that cortisol to bring out the vote; but if the fear and anxiety about health care had been toned down and reduced their overall fear, maybe maga would've had more trouble gaining traction.

Or maybe it would've been successfully repealed in 2016. Who knows.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, we still would have had 9/11, which is unrelated to healthcare and was the catalyst for making the endless fear mongering being ramped up to overdrive.

Get everyone primed up on hating "Middle Easterners" genericly, normalize more.and more surveilence and errosion of rigbts in the name of protecrion, start strapping in other groups to hate as people lose interest.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Probably. I mean, I'm super interested in alternate history as a storytelling concept, but I recognize that it's probably not a super helpful thing to get caught up in unless you're actively looking for fiction. The Butterfly Effect is just too strong to be certain about anything.

Would 9/11 have actually happened? Or is there someone who died in 1999 due to lack of healthcare access who might've been able to stop it, had the ACA come a decade earlier? If 9/11 is a "canon event" a la Spider-verse, would having a few years where the political "heat" was a bit lower first have helped us maintain that solidarity that was so brief in our actual version of history? Would history have proceeded more or less as it did in reality, but with Republicans abandoning their attempts to kill health care in the late-00s because by that point it was too established and "from the before times?" Would they have replaced those legislative attacks with something worse? (Almost certainly yes)

I'm intrigued by the possibilities. To some extent because we can learn for the future by thinking about the past; but mostly just in a "huh, that's interesting" way.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

Yep they do. The lower the income, the more billionaire deductible you will pay while not receiving care.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The plan is to let people die in the streets if they can't afford them grotesquely inflated prices of the healthcare system.

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[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Been saying this for over a decade, all through Obama’s 8 years after he passed a republican health plan they had no republican plan to replace it.

Repeal and replace is a lie you have heard for almost a decade, why believe it now?

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Spoiler alert… they don’t

[–] blave@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Because they are lying

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
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