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[–] needanke@feddit.org 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The baker profession actually immensly suffered from increased automation...

Alas, same with buggy whips.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I mean . . . good?

Technology removed inefficiencies so that later generations could devote their time and pursuits to other options instead.

Chat is progress good actually?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Be careful equating efficiency with progress, as everything you like about your life is ultimately inefficient.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Oooh. Nice.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah our factory bread doesn’t even count as bread in France. It’s been modified to allow machines to make it, by adding tons of chemicals that make it withstand kneading faster, baking quicker lasting on the shelf for months and a bunch of other factors that only increase profits for few remaining big corps that own it all.

Fuck factory breads, we could do it with smaller bakeries with wheat, water, yeast, sugar, and salt if we wanted to pay for it.

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Let AI replace middle Managment and give us all UBI and see how many of us would like to make our own bread.

I agree but I'll leave the bread making to someone else. There isn't a dough in the world that doesn't hate me. Luckily my gf is good with baking tho so we've still got it covered

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 23 points 2 days ago

Automation is great. We just need to collectively own it.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

somewhat

local bakeries making good product closing down because they're undercut by the giant chain store across the street selling shitty loafs at a loss is a bad thing, because it removes competition and then the corporate bakery can jack up prices on a shittier product because that's all that's left

the automation itself isn't bad, once again, it's the tool in the hands of a corporation that isn't regulated well enough

[–] lath@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Only until it decides you an inefficiency to be removed.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No because the people saw none of the benefits. It was hoarded by the billionaires.

We all work longer hours than our grandparents, we get less pay, and fewer of us sleep inside.

This is your 'progress'.

Only killing our masters would allow progress to anything I'll ever want.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chat is progress good actually?

Quick! Raise both arms. Dial 9.1.1 and tell them you've had a stroke.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It can only good happen!

"Chat, is progress good, actually?"

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Industrial bread machines motherfucker, have you heard of them?

[–] Blemish5236@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Oh fuck I'm gonna crumb 🥴

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's what they used to call me in college

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I refuse to call that bread. That's a sugar filled disgrace.

[–] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

Things like that have existed for quite a while...

[–] inconel@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From what I skimmed their manual no internet connection mentioned. So it won't transmit your usage or tap your conversion, which is a plus.

Zojirushi's core product is rice cooker/pressure cooker, this seems another variant with mixing(kneading) motor. Attatchable mixing blade and presets of holding temperature & bake temperature combo for cookies, different doughs (lean, butter rich one, pizza) etc. From what I read those presets are not tweakable so it'll produce ok bread unless you want to customize for your own taste or start experimenting stuff.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

Heck, Zojirushi makes a bread machine?

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

FEEL LIKE BAKING LOVE

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

If you want the exact same loaf every time its a good option. If you want something that's not a unitasker you're probably better off with a stand mixer.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Taking away the profit potential of a skilled labor task - especially labor skills that are difficult to obtain, is always going to be painful. Especially for those who earned their knowledge through blood, sweat, and tears.

In some ways it tell ls us the hard job was actually possible to make easy by doing it another way.

But when one door closes another door opens, right? .... Right...?

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can smell this picture; I love home baked bread. I agree with the sentiment.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago

I think my family had that same machine when I was a child.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Ohh no, they can make croissant now?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, because we all want to be bakers and work in restaurants.