I'm not defending a lot of America's actions rn but no shot they are a bigger aggressor than Russia, who is literally in the middle of a full-scale land invasion to annex their neighbor.
this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2025
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LOL "went from being “upholders of democracy” just after WW2 "
Never happened.
They always liked fascism, saved plenty nazis during and right after WW2.
Welcomed pure fascist states under Franco, Salazar and others in their NATO warmongering gang of thugs and did nothing but topple democracies, steal and loot.
And this was the same before WW2.
They actually had Nazi rallies and were very supportive of the nazi party that's why so many white supremacists in US hate Jews because of Nazi relationships. Let's just say the KKK had more in common with the Nazi's than they did with helping Europe.
GO FOR IT!!
This isn't even an unpopular opinion in the US right now.
I'm skeptical there was ever actually a time the US empire was a positive force in the world or even neutral, we've been doing messed up stuff for our entire existence as a country.
There are plenty of things America has done wrong but it’s a straw-man to say it’s only been bad. The Marshal plan is a clear example of America doing a clearly good thing even. Just cuz it’s a mess right now doesn’t mean it is always the case
BS, they profited directly from it as it was done by US companies and partially in loans.
Not as important as the "upholders of democracy" at the same time making Europe their vassals OC.
Pure self interest.
A straw man argument is one where you are misrepresenting an opposing position, so I don't think the term quite fits here. I'm not trying to claim it's never done anything good, but even the arguably good things have always been more about calculated self interest than any real concern for human rights or welfare:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
The purpose of the Marshall Plan was to aid in the economic recovery of nations after World War II and secure US geopolitical influence over Western Europe.
The only major powers whose infrastructure had not been significantly harmed in World War II were the United States and Canada.[30][31] They were much more prosperous than before the war, but exports were a small factor in their economy. Much of the Marshall Plan aid would be used by the Europeans to buy manufactured goods and raw materials from the United States and Canada.
WW2 left the country in a position of relative economic power, and in the following decades it used its greater influence the same way it had before (eg. the wars in Hawaii, the Philippines, Cuba etc.), to advance the cause of global capitalist exploitation and brutally suppressing even democratic opposition to it.
To me the main change here doesn't seem like the US becoming substantially more evil than the already substantial evils of the past, just getting worse at acting coherently in its own interests, acting against its allies instead of just geopolitically marginalized victims.
That is not an unpopular opinion.
Upholders of democracy? When?
Self-proclaimed.
To be fair, they helped setup one of the most advanced democratic systems... in Germany. They themselves were never very democratic to begin with.
You mean in post WW2 Germany that had more nazis in government than during the war?
Goes to show how good that democratic system was, that even with some nazis in government (though the "more nazis" is clearly a lie) no atrocities could be committed and instead a pretty stable system with solid minority rights emerged.
Compare that to the US system which only survived on gentlemen's agreements and people playing by imagined rules, and as soon as someone in the president's office stops caring about the rules the whole system comes crashing down.
The most advanced Democratic system is currently on trial in de Haag for supporting genocide
I don't think you deserve to be down voted, but I'm positive this isn't an unpopular opinion here
I'm an American and we deserve it.
I don’t know that this is unpopular per se but it would be bad politics. The US is too much of an economic powerhouse
nobody cares, they're on their way out economically anyway, they need to be finished off.
Some stuff are more important than money for normal people
Was...
This is very brave