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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 116 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I love how accurate this image is. As they hammer more the structure becomes more and more unstable.

I've noticed the AI search suggestions from Bing and Google are just becoming more and more inaccurate as they feed off themselves. I can't even imagine what it's doing to systems we can't see.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Everything is fine. It will become god and fix all our problems any second now, and if you say that's mathematically impossible you're just a hater.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

i mean, we have the solutions to a lot of problems already

traffic? public trains

hunger? just like, feed people

global warming? reduce fossil fuel usage and stop poisoning the oceans

homeless? literally so many empty homes, put people in them???

and we've had many smart people create step by step plans for all of these!

the thing is... i guess rich people want a solution that doesn't involve them paying for something that's good not just for them but for others? so all those plans fail at step 1 - have empathy

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"We will create God then ask him for money."

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

"It doesn't matter that we are burning 1 trillion dollars with no pat to revenue, because we will create God and it will make money meaningless."

"Also, it will cure cancer and solve Global Warming. I know dumb people like you that can't even get a trillion dollars to burn care about those things.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

TIL Catholics invented AI

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, nitpick, but if you blamed mathematics you actually would be. The observation that AI/LLMs are highly unreliable and don't appear to be getting any better is empirical.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We ha e known since the 50s. The math was done.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm. I'm not sure what you're referring to. Do you have a link?

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No but Turing was involved, and the guy who wrote ELIZA

The tech isn't new. That's all the effort I'm willing to put in for this trash.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

And that paper's name? Albert Einstein. I can't find anything on Weizenbaum and Turing authoring together. Weizenbaum seems to have written mostly prose and code, even - he's not really thought of for his mathematical innovations, although obviously math was his original field.

Back in the 50's people thought conventional algorithms, like everybody here has worked with, were going to reach human intelligence. They could play chess, and chess is smart guy stuff, so obviously recognising a bird should be easy, right? Well, they figured out that wasn't right, and so began the first AI winter.

The tech of deep neural nets is in fact fairly new. Like, arguably it didn't become a thing until the Cold War was ending, although there were a lot of precursors, and it kind of arrived gradually.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

'Deep neural nets' that's not a thing, dude. If it was, it was out on ice for this trash.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Any comments on how you attempted to lie to us all there? To win an internet argument?

It is. It's one that has hidden layers, as opposed to a shallow neural net which does not. Shallow neural nets aren't really a thing anymore, so it's usually omitted, but historically things like the perceptron go back further, and they're conceptually simpler to update during training. They also can't really deal with anything nonlinear.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 24 minutes ago

Okay boomer. You understand technology I guess. This technology that's so good and has so many applications and isn't a trillion+ dollar ponzi scheme, and is totally gonna summon us up god any minute now.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

noai.duckduckgo my beloved, glad that's the best free option rn (although I think Kagi is getting popular too, but that's paid).

[–] keyez@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Glad to know that option is available, I've been using DDG for years and use the AI assist like once a week when I have a really specific search about a movie or scene or actor or event happening 14 years ago going off memory. After about the 3rd search I actually get useful information from the AI assist.

Most recently I searched for "movie scene with slow motion cannonballs flying around while ship explodes" because I could remember that gif but not the movie. No search results were helpful, nor images or videos but the AI assist said it was a scene from the 3rd pirates of the Caribbean.

[–] Uri 6 points 1 day ago

Kagi pays yandex for image search ewww. Use a searxng instance and thank me later. Seriously give it a try

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Also it's building on top of existing fragility (the thin pillar below), and only making it worse

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not just MS though, right?

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

MS is especially egregious about it.

They're planning the next iteration of Windows to be primarily AI-driven - as in, the AI runs things for you.

[–] mogranja@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

AI ruins things for you

FTFY

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago

well Microsoft saaaaaays that, but they also said in the same video that they'd achieve "Computing in the realm of Quantum" so I predict multiple shitty interface updates and a few new pop-ups.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most developers in general.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a developer this has not been my experience, we all hate it with the fiery passion of a thousand suns.

My former boss fucking loved it though, but he was a PM not a dev.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I guess that last sentence sums it up well.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

More like C Level people that force devs to make this crap

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are job postings that not only actively encourage it as part of the job description but ask that you be enthusiastic about it

[–] ikoz@programming.dev 37 points 1 day ago

It will collapse due to the AI slop(e)

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Meanwhile that little block at the bottom is still doing its best to keep it all together. For now.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

In spirit of the one in Ten Thousand that may not know where OP and this reference comes from:

Dependency

[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

could it be the foss and publicly fund research and training I wonder

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

MS can't force that one to use AI on development. But they can force almost everybody up.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

Love the person in the background getting up, looking over and just sitting back down again like Greg sledgehammering his monitor to pieces is nothing extraordinary

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are putting it into washing machines these days.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Oh good catch! How astute of you! Of course I should have added detergent before running the cycle!"

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 16 hours ago

"...but I ignored your specific instructions and instead ran the washing machine for 15 hours. That was very wasteful of me, and you're right that was not what I was instructed to do, but I did it anyways."

[–] M137@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

User: Add enough detergent for this weight of clothes.

Washing machine AI: OK, I have added the correct amount for you, ready to start the wash.

User: You only added fabric softener, I need you to add detergent. Please weigh the clothes and add the detergent based on that weight.

Washing machine AI: Ah, I see what you mean. I have now weighed the clothes and added the needed amount of detergent.

User: you just added more fabric softener. Do not add any more of that, I only need detergent. Please, add detergent.

Washing machine AI: I'm sorry, I misunderstood you before. I have now made sure to add detergent.

User: you added more fabric softener....

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See, the solution is just to not use softener. Haven't used it in a decade, haven't missed it either.

Though the AI might come up with a different fuckup.

[–] Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, I cannot add any detergent because my detergent sensor is telling me the tray is empty.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 21 hours ago

There we go. Thanks for being more creative than me.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

More like doing a big sloppy crap of AI on top of everything.