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My prediction is that it will end this week when federal ATC employees stop showing up for work, thus directly affecting the quality of life of republican lawmakers and their billionaire donors. That's exactly why the last "longest shutdown in history" ended too.
Starving people? Hardly an inconvenience to the ultra rich. Can't fly their private jet? One phone call to Trump and the shutdown is over that afternoon.
Have ATC employees actually decided to stop showing up this week?
It started last week, but only amounted to flight delays. I anticipate that things are unlikely to improve and will only get worse as more and more ATCs call in sick in protest.
As this continues, I would highly recommend folks support their local food pantries as they are able. Cash is better, but there's nothing wrong with a food drive to collect cans from your neighbors. Some pantries also accept fresh produce, if you have some left from your garden this year.
Trump lost the last shutdown in one of the most humiliating political defeats of his Presidency. Did he think this one would be different?
Frustrated they can’t just steamroll everything, the dems are forcing the republicans to own their shitty policy they are trying to get the dems to vote for.
Basic human rights is a hill to die on, and Republicans are trying to take everything away.
Who the hell can even support them anymore? They would have to be living in a bubble.
the left
Lol.. Thae what now ? Jow about centre right.
"frustrated"?! People are literally starving because of their greed, their ego, their complete lack of empathy
People are literally starving
Which means it's working exactly the way they want.
The Republicans, with majority control of all three branches of government, have proven themselves inept, incompetent, irresponsible and generally incapable of successfully governing? Surely this is just a one time thing and not part of a continuing cycle that has repeated itself numerous times through the lifespans of the same voters who elected them! /s
the administration miscalculated the Democrats’ will to keep the government closed
No, Democrats will isn't about being the government closed. It is the Democrat's will to stand up for affordable healthcare.
Democrats' plan: we'll pay half so you only have to spend all of your life savings on healthcare
Republicans' plan: die you fucking plebs
Democrats: it’s not perfect enough
Republicans: fuck you and die
You: “both sides are the same.”
“Also,combined with my lack of patience towards the arch of history I’m just gonna take a shit on the whole conversation and offer no other option just cause I’m so smart”
Where did they say both sides were the same? I see that they said that both sides suck but one is objectively worse than the other, which is true. Democrats are shit but Republicans are straight evil.
“Dems suck… republicans also suck but for additional stuff….”
You have how hard a time seeing the both sidesism?
It’s like if someone says republicans suck you generate total blindness…
Other things Trump thought would be quick:
Balancing the budget – Vowed to eliminate the deficit quickly, but national debt soared.
Building the border wall – Promised rapid construction, but faced years of legal, logistical, and funding hurdles.
COVID-19 containment – Predicted it would “go away,” but the pandemic lasted years with major health and economic fallout.
Draining the swamp – Vowed to clean up Washington fast, but faced entrenched bureaucracy and ethics scandals.
Ending birthright citizenship – Floated quick executive action, but faced constitutional barriers.
Ending the war in Afghanistan – Promised quick withdrawal, but the process spanned years and ended chaotically.
Ending transgender participation in sports – Promised swift bans, but faced legal challenges and state-level resistance.
Fixing the VA – Promised rapid reform, but systemic issues persisted.
Infrastructure overhaul – Promised a “big, beautiful” plan, but no major package passed during his first term.
Mass deportations – Claimed swift action, but implementation was slow and legally contested.
North Korea denuclearization – Expected quick diplomacy, but talks stalled and no deal was reached.
Overhauling education policy – Proposed sweeping changes, but implementation was slow and uneven.
Peace in the Middle East – Announced breakthroughs, but conflicts like Israel-Iran flared up again within days.
Quick impeachment acquittals – Predicted fast dismissals, but proceedings were lengthy and politically charged.
Repealing Obamacare – Declared it would be easy, but failed to pass repeal legislation despite Republican control.
Replacing NAFTA – Took years to renegotiate and ratify USMCA.
Reviving coal jobs – Claimed fast resurgence, but the industry continued to decline.
Trade deal with China – Predicted a fast win, but negotiations dragged on and escalated into a trade war.
Winning legal battles – Often predicted fast victories, but faced prolonged investigations and trials.
Government and speed go together like car tires and peanut butter.
When you have no experience with real work, there’s zero chance you have the ability to accurately estimate work
On top of that, surrounding yourself with fake experts (chosen specifically for their willingness to say anything you want to hear) seems like a great way to never know what’s actually going on.
Taco seems like Peak SNAFU principle (From Robert Anton Wilson) in action.
https://hackersdictionary.com/html/entry/SNAFU-principle.html
It's almost like people who don't understand how govt works shouldn't be president. Or even be allowed to vote, for that matter. It seems like people think there's a magic wand that the top guy can wave and everything just falls into place.
I think that voter registration should work like driver licensing. And the test you have to pass should be the citizenship exam.
Appealing as the idea is, the problem is who gets to control the exams.
That's a fair criticism. We know how poll testing has historically been used to disenfranchise minority groups.
That's why I suggested the citizenship exam, which is a well-established test with specific parameters and existing preparation programs.
Sure, but who decides what's on the citizenship exam? Who updates it? Who's in charge of making sure it's administered fairly?
Right now there's not really any power to be gained by subverting it, so it's handled by people who are interested in keeping it working well. Make it the gateway to electoral control, and interest groups will worm their way into control of it - and then you have a variant on poll testing.
You're right. I just wish politicians would just let us have nice things.
Draining the swamp – Vowed to clean up Washington fast, but faced entrenched bureaucracy and ethics scandals.
Well, and some things are complete delusion on his part as well as conservatives. If anything, Taco created the swamp.
Reviving coal jobs – Claimed fast resurgence, but the industry continued to decline.
And some things, for instance, this and the wall and repealing ACA, and ruining/"overhauling" education, are just plain not worth doing.
Says the guy weaponizing the DOJ against his opponents right after accusing the other side of doing the same.
In this administration, every accusation is an admission.
... just like with Russian diplomacy
In early October, several Trump administration officials had a friendly pool going of how long the shutdown would last.
They are betting on the misery of their own voters. And 50% of your voters still think all of this is super ok? Can someone ELI5 how that is possible without a mob forming because I really can't follow anymore.
I remain as shocked as you. When Trump was the candidate in 2024 I figured Kamala's victory was guaranteed. What I've come to realize in recent years is that USAmericans are fundamentally unwise. They really vote based on what they feel in the moment, hence why as the country gets worse, the elections keep flip-flopping.
Trump lost in 2020 because of Covid-19 and won in 2024 because of "grocery prices" and being the opposite major party to the current guy. The fact that he's an insurrectionist rapist conman who pioneered division and destruction just doesn't matter to them. The 2016-2020 term? The Pandemic he failed to maintain? Forgotten about. The embarrassments in the Republican-held congress? Most voters don't even recall them. How any of us live with this is beyond me. It's like being held hostage by self destructive parents.
There has been a concerted effort on the right to isolate a dumb down voters for years. There was a solid documentary a number of years back I think it was called outfoxed where they explained how after Nixon was defeated a group of right wingers swore they would create a system where that would never happen again. Surprisingly, they succeeded. Trump is the result of that. When he said he could walk out in a Times Square shoot someone and no one would care he was correct. They have insulated isolated and dumb down their voting base so much that he could do or say whatever he wants and get away with it because they think he’s winning and therefore They are winning. A comedian said it best recently: MAGA supporters are like the guy at the local strip club who thinks that the stripper is in love with them when in reality the stripper doesn’t give a fuck about you and just wants your money. That’s what this entire administration is. They’re going to rob this country blind completely destroy it and then walk away with billions of dollars while the rest of us have to suffer through this shit storm they created. But no one will care because Black people brown people poor people us anybody else than me is suffering just a little bit more than me and that’s good enough for them because they’ve been told to think like that and they’re okay accepting that.
I believe that comedian was Josh Johnson.
It was a fantastic set the compares the blind faith of MAGA for Dump to some dude in love with a stripper who only wants the money.
There's way too many of his sets that include Dump for me to link the specific one, but he has weekly releases on TubeYou.
They feel like they're winning as long as groups they don't relate to are made to suffer even more.
Donald Taco, overseer of the greatest longest biggest shutdown in US history. Congrats
Aaaaaand the second longest one too!
Oh well. Too bad about their frustrated expectations.
But I won't really be happy until justice is done, to each and every one of them, and everything that Trump has corrupted has been rooted out and rescinded.
What a rag
“Trump, he’s had it with these people, because he knows they’re playing politics,”
Lmao.
Who'd have thought politicians would play politics when doing politics?