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The Trump administration will undoubtedly appeal, possibly all the way to the Supreme Court. But for now, millions of people across the country will not have to make hard choices about how to feed themselves and their families. Several states that had already declared emergencies to tackle the impending crisis will have at least some temporary relief.

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Those shitheads haven't listened to any judges yet, they aren't starting now. SCrOTUS let the orange cancer be above the law.

The only positive thing is that this will hurt MAGAts more. They'll get to experience what they voted for. Thankfully my blue state has already started shuffling funding toward feeding people here.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So how is the judiciary expected to enforce this?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not sure, but it does give Republicans an additional roadblock in their propaganda campaign to blame Democrats.

If people do start going hungry, the GOP might not like the reaction they get from some people in their own base.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

At the very least, maybe there will be a few people whose echo chambers ring with “it’s the dems fault”, who will hear this and finally start to think.

Presidential elections hinge on one or two percent of voters do every little bit helps

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

By giving Trump demerits on the demerit board

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 104 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will appeal to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will sign in their favor, meanwhile they will not spend any money.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They need a temporary restraining order in order to do that. Do they have one? I haven't seen it in any stories yet.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t think I understand the question. A judge ordered Trump to do something. Trump does not have to do any of that, because he appealed. I’m not sure entirely how this process works… But I can guarantee you zero money will be spent on snap until the Supreme Court makes its decision. If the Supreme Court makes the decision that Trump has to support snap, Trump will still not support snap. No one is going to reach into the pocket of the government and pull out the money. It is just not going to happen. Every single thing that you see is just a puppet show.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not arguing your conclusion, but to answer the question regarding the question

Just appealing a ruling doesn't mean he doesn't have to follow the ruling. He still has to follow the ruling until a judge, any judge involved in the case, says that he doesn't have to follow the ruling as either a temporary stay of said ruling or a permanent judgement.

So if he doesn't do as ordered (and I agree that he won't) he is 100% in violation of the law AND the judge's orders.

But also he's immune to prosecution for official acts, so why should Trump give a shit about any of that?

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 days ago

I guess we gotta kill him

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What does "following the ruling" even look like? Does Trump have to cut a check for it? Is there some bureaucrat who pushes some buttons on a computer? Who will make either of those things happen? The courts have no enforcement arm. Congress has no enforcement arm. We're relying on American humans to follow the rules and I have given up hope on that happening.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What he's supposed to do is use the emergency funds in place specifically for this situation but he won't

Right but how precisely do those funds end up on EBT cards? Is there some bureaucrat we can put pressure on to push the right buttons?

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

The judge ordered the administration to report back by Sunday or Monday night with plans on how it would happen.

Actually two different judges in different states ruled this same way with the same requirement.

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm sure at some point a judge ordered Hitler to stop killing Jews.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Hitler literally got a law passed so that a judge couldn't block him from doing anything. So until Trump has his Reischtag fire and declares a state of emergency it's not really comparable.

Enabling Act

Passed shortly after Hitler became Chancellor, the Act effectively transferred significant legislative authority from the Reichstag (the German parliament) to Hitler and his cabinet, allowing them to enact laws without parliamentary consent. The Act also permitted amendments to the constitution and control over the national budget. Despite its ostensibly reassuring language regarding the roles of the president and parliament, the Enabling Act fundamentally undermined democratic governance in Germany.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We already had the "official acts" SCOTUS ruling instead.

[–] Curmuffin@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The ruling which states that SCOTUS itself is the final arbiter of what constitutes an "official act." So if (lol) there's ever a non-GOP president again, SCOTUS has the ability to take away Presidential Immunity whenever asked to rule on a relevant case. A neat trick that everyone seemed to forget during the Biden admin.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

There's no fire. He just paid a bunch of people to tear down the white house.

Sure, he'll probably blame Dems

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Hitler essentially stripped out all Jewish sympathy from the german legal system almost as soon as he took power.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

There were several legal challenges, especially against the concentration camps. They were quite close to succeeding

Trump's legal troubles are very similar, especially is regards to their shared attempts to overthrow the government (although Hitler lost and received a stern slap on the wrist)

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[–] thehowlingnorth@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Trump administration will undoubtedly appeal, possibly all the way to the Supreme Court.

That's gonna be a good look for them. /s

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Doesn't matter how it looks. Cult members won't care, trump will ignore the order, people will starve.

The cruelty is literally the whole point. This administration is evil.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they're even going to bother to appeal as much as they're just going to ignore a court order... again.

[–] Casino2306@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Not much a kangaroo court can really do but make noise anyhow.

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The way this admin wields power reminds me of one of my favorite video game quotes.

"It's not a cudgel you barbarian..." -Cortana

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At some point I expect the admin to admit they already spent the money. What will the courts do then?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (9 children)

That wouldn't do anything at all. The government simply spends money into existence. If the judge tells them to pay SNAP, then they magic the money into existence.

The federal government cannot run out of money, it can only increase inflation.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No that just opens opportunity for more delay by saying “the right thing”. At that point MAGAts can say they cant spend money Congress hasn’t allocated, and is blocked on the shutdown.

In this case the executive does have a certain amount of money already allocated by Congress that they can spend to support critical government functions. Part of that was explicitly allocated to fund SNAP in case of a shutdown. But they’re also making choices like spending billions on ice and border patrol to terrorize dark skinned people and to suppress voting. Are those really critical government functions? Should they really be higher priority than keeping citizens from starving?

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Nothing. It will have been a "presidential duty" immune from consequences, as ordained by the bootlickers in the SCrOTUS.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is good, because people won't go hungry

This is bad, because concessions and breadcrumbs like this will prevent people from overthrowing this tyrant

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Then people lacking long term health care - like Luigi - will be better soldiers than starving people.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Looks like he's ignoring it

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