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President Trump is reportedly fuming that his threats, firings, and program cuts haven’t gotten Senate Democrats to cave to Republicans and end the shutdown.

Trump, 79, thought the shutdown would last ten days at most, believing that the unprecedented and illegal firings of federal workers by his “grim reaper‚” OMB head Russ Vought, would be enough to get Democrats to give up, sign the Republicans’ budget bill, and thus re-open the government.

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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 100 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's what bullies do ..... Expecting their victims to give in almost instantly.

(When they don't, they start doing weird things in wild panik)

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I had a roommate once throw fists at me because I wouldn't capitulate to his idea that Bear Grylls is superior to Survivorman.

Real talk, Chris, If you're reading this, Bear Grylls is just a piss fetishist with military training. Survivorman was his own film crew, and never pissed in his own mouth on camera.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, fuck Bear Grylls! Les Stroud for life!

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Bear Grylls ate deli sandwiches with the crew whenever the camera was off.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Agreed. Bear Gryllis is a showman.

My turnpoint was when he was dropped and finding his way home and said "Never jump a cliff into unknown waters" just to see him jump a cliff 15min later in the same episode.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's called foreshadowing.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

There was so e episode where so e river footage was just under a bridge in a small town in Alaska. Dude had creds but became a fraud. Les Stroud was just a badass, always.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Bear Grylls also licensed his name to a series of exceedingly shitty knives manufactured by Gerber. He's off my Christmas card list forever.

[–] Marafon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Les Stroud is the GOAT

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Kind of like that 3 day special operation in Ukraine?

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

You're not wrong

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The ideas come from the same source, probably.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Someone found one of the "crevices" Grylls filmed at once, if you panned the camera to the left a few feet, you could see the parking lot behind the ditch.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 79 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump, he’s had it with these people, because he knows they’re playing politics

There it is. The dumbest thing I've ever read. Politicians in Congress are "playing politics" with politicians in the White House. Which is what they were all fucking elected to do.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 42 points 3 days ago

It makes sense when Trump and his cronies have been trying to run the entire United States like a business.

And we all know that Trump has never run a successful business because he thinks CEOs should be treated like kings.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It's called "doing your job" so no wonder he's confused. Never met a Republican who hasn't tried their hardest not to do anything.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He thought that bullying and abuse would make the Democrats back down. And I'm surprised as well. So far everyone has backed down against his ridiculous demands, both within the US and internationally. They've taught him his tactics work.

I'm really glad to see someone stand up to him. I never expected it to be the Democrats though.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago

Probably learned the hard way after the Big Ugly Bill passed.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

They very specifically said their plan was to “extract maximum pain” from Democrats. Literally said that.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You're making dems build a resilience to suffering. Which makes them more able to defend against you abusing their empathy, but also more like their abuser, able to tolerate suffering. This behavior makes people lose their empathy to survive the abuse.

[–] Septimaeus 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, a strategy of hostage-taking can work for a terrorist, but it’s a contract. It only works so long as your opponent has reason to think you’ll keep it.

No one alive today is more notorious for breaking contracts than this guy, and since January, he’s taken hostages hundreds of times and hasn’t kept his end even once. He ALWAYS shoots them anyway, just to feel less small.

So it couldn’t be simpler: there’s no reason or excuse to cooperate, and any who do at this point are some combination of imbecile, coward, or collaborator.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People have to make some hard decisions in their lives around who is empowering Trump and Maga, and who is not, and to stop empower those who empower Trump. Businesses, friends, family, platforms, celebrities, retailers. Trump is only able to do this because enough support exists to empower him. Cut out the legs.

None of us can reach Trump or the GOP, but we can reach who we spend time with, who we give money to, who we buy stuff from, who we hire, who we work with, who we help and who we retract our empathy, supports, wisdom, skills and other life resources from. By forcing themselves for he top, they have made two separate societies. Time we admit that and start building ours and ignoring theirs, the only other option is capitulation to a society none of us want.

I worry what is necessary is beyond what people are willing to do. But then millenials, GenZ and gen alpha have a dark future that has already taken many of their, often reasonable, dreams. What are young people even living for today? Why not redirect our future to something better, since it's going to get redirected anyways. They refuse to sacrifice their willingness to sacrifice us, so why support anything associated with them, at all?

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

I'm honestly surprised they didn't cave, but I'm glad they didn't.

Though I kind of expect them to next week.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

They were going to fire them anyway. Doesn't work.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)