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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 115 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Look, my ability to detect irony has physically atrophied in the Trump era, so this question is genuine: Are they trying to incite violent revolution against the billionaire class?

Because you just can't make up shit as bad as the way these fuck operate.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes! They are desperate for a civil war. The longer they go without it, the more support they lose, and the more the different factions on the right begin to splinter.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 3 days ago

They want a civil war, or rather a cultural war between civilians, to detract from a class war. They want the civilians to be fighting among themselves (i.e. left vs right), rather than uniting against ruthless billionaires and grifters in the government. Having a civil war would also make some of their false claims become "true", e.g. that cities are "war zones" and that they "need" to utilize the Insurrection Act and put the military everywhere without any remaining legal obstructions. I mean they still do it partially already, which is bad enough, but when a civil war would actually exist (like they claim), then they could also claim that what they were lying about the whole time is actually "true" (just not at all the way they said it to be, but the end result would be kind of the same: war zones inside cities) and they'd be legally allowed to be even more oppressive than they are already. It would increase their power overall. It would lead to a guaranteed dictatorship. Dictators love using "emergencies" to grab full, unrestricted power. So it's best to never aid them while they try to construct an emergency where there is none. That exposes their lies better.

[–] GreatAspie86@lemy.lol 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No one is gonna do shit. You could starve half of America and we all will still go to work and the people starving either just die or would still support Trump and die. This is not a country of civil disobedience, we just mostly all don't want to be inconvenienced in any way. There's also zero organizing, zero workers rights and zero collaboration amongst the left to do anything. I fully expect things to keep getting worse and most of us honestly just don't give a shit. America is also huge and you're not gonna get people in Hawaii to just come to DC.

The "1789 France" memes are all bullshit. The US also has the most advanced military to keep all the peasants in line and you bet your ass they won't join the peasants.

A little more than five years ago remember people were throwing public fits over putting a piece of cloth on their face, they ain't gonna rise up.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The military might not get paid on the 15th. I wouldn't be too sure of their loyalty.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Fucking Democrats!!

/s

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Yes they are. We revolt they slam the hammer and get all the power they want. Regular folks get hurt or killed as they try to fight the most powerful military on earth. All the 2A guys swear their 9mms and hunting rifles can stop drones and tanks and any of the other machines of war out tax dollars have been funding to kill the pesky brown people not in our borders.

It's too late to wake up now. Our complacency has caught up with us.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

I don't think they care. They've been insulated so long they think it'll never happen to them.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am once again wondering when the brave and free american people will stand up to this corruption in a meaningful way

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they're getting indicted by the state for their political positions

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

sounds like they didn't do something meaningful enough, then

don't get me wrong, some people need to do that. but other people also need to do more.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I think if they really want to give all the hoi polloi the finger, they need to speed up the ballroom completion, then throw King Louis XVI themed parties about every week. All while yanking things like ACA and SNAP....

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I'm convinced Trump is trying with the way he speaks about random stuff, and way too on the nose. But he knows what he can't say, or who he can't speak against without getting another ear shot at. There's no way he can possibly be this dumb...... Can he?

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 days ago

I’m sure that’ll teach him. All these slams piling up. He’s bound to buckle sooner or later.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago

Not one to be outdone by let them eat cake, yeah? A noble effort

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No wonder the Confederate base are so angry all the time - the amount of effort it must take to sustain the cognitive dissonance between watching the pedo-in-chief flip virtually all of America the bird, partying like Gatsby while people are getting ready to starve, and also believing at the same time that he's for "The Forgotten Man", must cause a lot of pain.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Those people are willing to put up with anything, just to get their hate and resentment validated.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I'm not sure I'll make it into heaven."

Gee I wonder why.

[–] Townlately@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Something something camel something eye of needle, doesn't matter, he didn't read it

[–] Townlately@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If Trump were actually illiterate, why would he keep a book of Hitler's speeches next to his bed?

Checkmate, liberal!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I gave up on blaming this shit on Trump over a year ago ....

.... it's all on America at this point for putting up with this shit.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What are we supposed to be doing?

[–] lIlIlIlIl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It’s always “you should do something!”

What?

…oh you’re right I guess I wouldn’t want to get shot first either 🥺

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It seems like the second amendment is not needed anyway! Imagine that!

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And yet, risking getting shot may be exactly what winds up happening, or rather, may be what needs to happen even if no one wants to do it. But it also can't just be one person, can't make change with just one Luigi. Whole neighborhoods and communities have to organize, and it's simply not happening on a mass scale.

Then again, even if that happens, the public still needs the military on their side. Because if it gets to the point Trump thinks he can call down missiles on American cities, the military needs to tell him to fuck off. Citizens won't be able to defend against that or drones.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Organize with your local groups. Political activism, mutual aid, any kind of community support.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago

More than marching around with signs once a month

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I gave up on blaming America a long time ago...

... it's all on the EU for putting up with this shit.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Something something the swamp....

Republican projection. Like voter fraud.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump slammed for...

One does not "slam" a king.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Ask Charles the first

He is the American emperor Nero

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago

I could he do any less villian arechetypes. Its like let them eat cake.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

And welcome to the jam!

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

History doesn’t always repeat but it does very often rhymes.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Pedo Antoinette

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Humans are designed to exist in tribes of about 200 people. Those 200 are your people, and folks beyond that are merely theoretical. So if you are a billionaire, and only hang with the other billionaires, you can't actually believe that the other 8 billion people in the world matter.

I thought all human life was sacred? Why force women to give birth if you have no use for everyone outside of your "tribe"