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There is perennial discussion about what fediverse servers (Lemmy or otherwise) to recommend to new users. I have a proposal, perhaps not very original but I haven't seen it made often.

Let's just recommend that newbies pick an instance that is located close to them geographically. That's to say: their country, their region, or (ideally) their town.

Some context. Personally, I am not totally sold on social media, federated or otherwise. The evidence is now pretty clear that it causes major social harms. One way it does this is by fuelling polarization around hot-button national and international debates, at the expense of local issues. Reviving democracy is going to mean boosting communities at a local level. This could be a small way to do that.

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[–] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 2 points 18 hours ago

I see your point but it depends on heavily on the servers. Some local servers are very good and some are so bad that you should stay away from them.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As a US-based person, just no. It is not desirable to host anything here or to trust any US-based service for a number of reasons.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

I think ICE is the scariest thing the US has done in decades. The online world is not even important compared to the evil stuff they are doing.

It just shows a mentality in Trump that is similar to Hitler. Also that he murders people on Venezuelas boats without any trial or legal actions. Just murders them.

So yeah. I will actually move my stuff away from aws even. I dont want any US in my life.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This need not concern the physical location of the servers, just their purpose and audience.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

Gotcha, I suppose I was reading into this a bit too much:

pick an instance that is located close to them geographically

Definitely agree with your idea in this case.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Right. Midwest.social is not hosted in the US, but it’s for the Midwest region of the US.

[–] julian@activitypub.space 12 points 2 days ago

Now this is a good reason to move a community to a different region.

[–] fastfinge@rblind.com 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If we look at how toxic and racist the local city groups are on Reddit or Facebook, I'm not sure this is a good model. If I'm a black trans woman living in a small town in Mississippi, my local instance might not even be a safe place, for me.

Similarly, I would encourage blind folks to join us at rblind.com rather than a local instance, because a local instance might not take our needs into account: many have captchas, some use inaccessible themes, etc. At rblind.com you can be sure that we won't deploy an update or configuration change that will break accessibility, because the server admins and moderators are all blind ourselves. But the beauty of federation means that you can talk to everyone else on other instances, so being part of a particular identity group doesn't limit you to just talking to other members of that group.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is a shit take. OP doesn't know how the internet works. Join any instance that you like, and subscribe to the community that has a topic based on your geographical region.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m a member of the .world instance but I don’t even live in this planet.

Suckers.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah I looked into migrating to earth but overall it didn't seem like a great idea. Most of the world is rife with hatred of aliens and has a very much higher percentage of trafficking aliens than native peoples. They seem to be highly focused on competing against each other rather than helping their societys grow together. When was there last war, today.. that number hasn't changed in thousands of cycles. An atmospheric scan shows catestorfic changes making it inhabitable for many life forms on the planet and yet still while thousands of species have died off around them, the primary "intelligent" species ignores it while lying to their peers trying to swindle themselves into a better standing so they can think they are better than others while dooming near everything. Maybe I'll go in after the next thaw in about 65,000 cycles.

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[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 17 points 2 days ago (20 children)

There's only one mexican instance, it uses a whitelist and it fucking federates with grad so... Yeah, out of options.

I've been here since the reddit API exodus and I've never seen a latinamerican comm in my feed, much less latinamerican spanish posts.

And hosting an instance is not that simple, it requires effort, content, time, some originality and money (even if a little)... And people who want to join, but I've seen maybe 1 mexican (who I assume lives in México too) other than me... Because mexicans love being strangled by meta, so there's little to no incentive into creating a space for us in the fediverse.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It surprises me a whole lot how few Hispanic instances there is, as far as I know feddit.cl is the biggest and kinda the only proper one.

[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

And I've never seen their posts on my feed... I'll try searching some comms from there to here and see if it was just missing active federation.

And being the cynical asshole that I am... It doesn't surprise me at all, the technological ignorance is huge in latinamerica and we are stubborn as fuck, people just don't want to learn or try anything different, even if it could be better.

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[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe I could see country or even general region, but town?? Why would I want to publicly give away my location like that?

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Many (maybe most) non-anglophones are already doing that ...

... depending on your definition of "local". Where are the big anglophone servers located, anyway?

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Agreed. And it's not a zero-sum game.

The fact I'm on english speaking fediverse doesn't mean I'm not on the finnish speaking fediverse.

And what instance I'm on has absolutely no bearing on which one I spend my time.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, and no. If you want to run specific community types - it might be better to be on a more 'general' or topical instance rather than a community geographically relevant to your country.

Moreover, some national instances don't have Piefed equivalents yet.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's frustrating to see the largest instance recommended all the time since it's rather heavy on censorship

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (19 children)

There currently aren't many of those.

Due to the rate of federation being limited by latency, instances have actually been re-locating to mostly Europe, so they can more easily keep up with each other.

Basically, every federated event needs to propagate, but the next one can't be sent out before the last one is received and an aknowledgement comes back.

That means a higher latency makes an instance federate at a lower rate, causing it to fall behind. Eventually, some instances were having activity from .world show up with days of delay due to being on the other side of the world.

But since your point is mostly ideological/cultural, that doesn't really matter. You're talking about identity, not infrastructure.

Which kinda defeats your point. Geography doesn't matter. You can set up a finnish community on a swedish instance and vice versa.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "reviving democracy".

The fediverse is explicitly NOT democratic. It's run by a large group of benevolent dictators (admins and mods) who maintain the environment they and the users of their respective instances and communities desire.

They are kept in line not by votes, but by the fact that any one of them can be defederated by the rest, and they can all be supplanted by any one user with the desire to set up their own instance or community.

The reason Lemmy doesn't have local communities, is not structural. It's size.

There are some finnish communities that can just barely be considered active. But if you further divided that down to cities, you'd have maybe one post a year.

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[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If the user likes none of the regional instances he/she knows of, should the user recommend things he/she doesn't like?

Similarly, some instances have more clear-cut niches. If the user finds such an instance to be a good recommendation to someone interested in the fediverse, should he/she avoid it if it's too far physically from the interested user?

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

A niche instance can also be a good home, especially if the person identifies strongly with the theme. Regional is a good starting point for users with mainstream interests.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not clear where most of them are based. I am an American living in Czechia. I don't see any Czech language ones (though I'd be using mostly English anyway), so my assumption is that there aren't any in Czechia, which is likely wrong and just based on lack of info.

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