After a fiasco with my 72 year old father in lawβs laptop, I no longer recommend Linux Mint to people. On a fairly new Asus, multiple attempts at installing were needed to get it running, and he had constant issues that pushed him away from it. Installed Ubuntu for him, no issues over the past year. Sure it has snaps. He doesnβt know the difference and everything seems to be working fine. The goal is no IT support calls from the old man and Ubuntu achieved it.
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Ubuntu has fucked me and my sister over. Bazzite has been doing ok and I've been looking in to Cachyos
Ubuntu LTS? It can still have rough edges depending on your hardware, but solve them and you got five years of peace.
I run CachyOS with Hyprland, after using EndeavourOS for quite some time. I definitely recommend either one, if youβre willing to learn to do things via terminal.
Fedora would have achieved the same goal.
Fedora stability is chef's kiss
Iβve ran Fedora on and off for years, by my measure, itβs not old man proof.
As a certified Old Man^tm^ running Fedora Kinonite 43, it's very Old Man^tm^ proof.
Now Grandma on the other hand.... I swear she can cause even an iPad to burst into flames at a mere glance.
Iβd say itβs no more or less than Ubuntu. An immutable flavor like Silverblue or Bazzite would be more resistant to the technologically challenged, which is why I always recommend one of those to new Linux users first.
Why not go with Debian stable? I even recommend Fedora for non-techies.
I get so frustrated hearing this take over and over again.
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
This is the process for installing the DKMS Nvidia GPU drivers on Debian.
The process to install said drivers on Ubuntu, Pop, Mint, etc, is literally clicking an icon.
Yes, following the manual is easy for you, and easy for me. Itβs not easy for the tech illiterate elders in our lives. And itβs not easy for me to drop in weekly to solve their problems either.
I dont know, I run every new kernel since im on arch... Havent noticed anything.
"Btw, I have Arch.."
Sorry I'm not an expert in desies
I only mentioned it since rolling releases get all the kernels as daily updates. If you run something like mint, you just get a kernel that has been selected as stable by the distro.
At least I think so. I havent run mint but my Ubuntu installations tend to stick to a kernel and only update sometimes.
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Haven't had an issue with Fedora and nVidia in years either.
Some people have test environments that aren't their prod environment.
Others stick with a distro that has better validation and/or long-term support.
Please don't blame the kernel devs.
Please don't blame the kernel devs.
Agreed... almost certainly not a kernel issue. Linus is famous for absolutely losing his shit if a kernel breaks userspace
Totally understandable crushout
If something breaks when I update the kernel and that same thing works again if I downgrade the kernel, what explanation should I seek other than that the kernel broke something?
Notice Iβm on Linux Mint, so Iβm not using the original kernel but a modified version.
Other packages relying on a specific kernel version, and not being updated in time. Eg. nvidia drivers.
I tried multiple distros over the last year to find a good one to recommend to someone I know. My experience with mint was a mediocre startup followed by mediocre use for a few days, followed by a boot failure. Very disappointing from a distro I frequently hear recommended as a newbie-friendly option.
yeah when I first switched to Linux everyone suggested Mint to me, like they always do, so I tried that. It was miserable, didn't work well with my Nvidia GPU, and almost made me go back to Windows. then someone suggested CachyOS to me and I'm glad they did.
CachyOS is the best Linux experience I've ever had. I used to use Mint too but it had problems with my new hardware. I was hesitant because people always say Arch distros are hard to learn but what I don't see mentioned is how much better they actually run. I've had zero problems so far, and that's more than I can say for Windows 11 lol.
When you're done with CachyOS I recommend OpenSUSE Tumbleweed - just as someone recommended me once after I was done with CachyOS :)
I know it's an LTS version, but 5.15 is not exactly a new kernel release. It's EOL next year. I've been on the 6 series kernel since switching from Windows, and have yet to have anything break on update.
Edit: also, that kernel release is less than a year after the 6800 xt was released. I'd imagine that newer kernels would have a whole bunch of bug fixes.
Oh, it's about mint. Never mind.
That issue was also a problem with SuSE back then. That's why I left them.
After reading that I realised that I have some similar problems. If I turn on the computer with the monitor turned off or if I turn it on too late, it goes to sleep and it won't wake up, I have to restart the computer somehow, usually with reisub.
After reading your comment... me too...
I had a similar issue with a Windows laptop recently
this is most likely an acpi issue. acpi is vendor specific and it's hard to support every one. there are some work arounds, I'd see if there's anything in dmesg and go from there. definitely annoying tho.
Debian: If itβs not natively support and stable weβll make it supported and stable, no matter the cost.
Exactly why I run LMDE and not LM.
It just takes an eon or two for them to get to the stable branch.
Wow, and it's not even nvidia.
Use DKMS drivers. They rebuild for the latest kernel as its upgraded. Using precompiled libs is a problem as many vendors dont keep up with the kernel.
Also, consider an OS that isn't just a Ubuntu variant. Broken kernel upgrades are a thing of the past since our house dumped Ubuntu based distros.
Fedora or *buntu for easy general stable use. Mint has never been well maintained.
I get kernel panic when I try to use 6.14 in Mint. 6.11 is fine, though that seems to be deprecated.
Well that's something to keep an eye on.
That said, I'm on LMDE6 which is firmly stuck on the 6.1 LTS kernel branch, so I might not see any problems until I upgrade to LMDE7 and get 6.12 (or go nuts and install something else entirely).
I recently updated my LMDE 6 install to 7, no issues thus far for me.
I seem to remember having little to no trouble with the 5 to 6 transition on my old system, so I'm inclined to believe that.
I just need to get my head - and backups - in order for the day I decide go ahead with 6 to 7, just in case it doesn't go smoothly.
Same, upgrading to 6.8 for the exact same reason right now π